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"Being ethical is a core value of the company." How does it make them stand out? What does it translate to in practice?

by V-2 10y ago

ma2rten 10y ago
It means that Google often passes on opportunities to make more money if that would hurt or mislead users, advertisers or publishers. Google's search rankings are unbiased. The ads team is separated from the search team. It's business model benefits from and supports an open internet, unlike other companies which lock users into their ecosystem. Google is very transparent internally for a company it's size. Google releases large of amounts of open source software and publishes research. For instance Google published a paper that explains in detail how it's Machine Translation system works.
- blakeyrat 10y ago
  You should get the YouTube developers in on this, because their ContentID system is about the LEAST ethical piece of software in common use. In my 2 dozen or so ContentID flaggings, maybe two of them have been by parties with a legitimate claim to the material. All the rest have been fraud. My most recent "pleasant" experience with ContentID was some scam copyright company claiming they owned the soundtrack to Elder Scrolls: Morrowind. The beauty of this system is that not only are they fraudulently claiming they own that content, but to get my video published I have to swear that I'm not stealing the content they actually stole. How do I report this scammer to YouTube? Well you can't. There's no automated way, and there's no support whatsoever. They can just scam in peace for years and years and nobody can do anything about it because nobody at Google cares. "Ethical". Riiight.
  - ma2rten 10y ago
    https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en
    - blakeyrat 10y ago
      Of course you can DISPUTE the claim. And in fact actual scammers will release the claim right away because they make all their scam-dollars off old videos where people don't check the ContentID status every week. But there's no way to tell Google, "the guy making this claim doesn't own the content, he's a scammer". That's the feature I need. I am 100% certain that the company claiming to have owned Morrowind's music: 1) Is not Bethesda (the developer of the game) 2) Is not affiliated with Bethesda in any way 3) Has no right to the music But I have no way to communicate my research to Google. Because, guess what, those "ethical" Google employees make money off the scam, too! They take a percentage of all ad revenue, even if it's a ContentID scammer's ad revenue.

"Being ethical is a core value of the company." How does it make them stand out? What does it translate to in practice?

by V-2 10y ago

"Being ethical is a core value of the company." How does it make them stand out? What does it translate to in practice?

It means that Google often passes on opportunities to make more money if that would hurt or mislead users, advertisers or publishers. Google's search rankings are unbiased. The ads team is separated from the search team. It's business model benefits from and supports an open internet, unlike other companies which lock users into their ecosystem. Google is very transparent internally for a company it's size. Google releases large of amounts of open source software and publishes research. For instance Google published a paper that explains in detail how it's Machine Translation system works.

blakeyrat 10y ago
You should get the YouTube developers in on this, because their ContentID system is about the LEAST ethical piece of software in common use. In my 2 dozen or so ContentID flaggings, maybe two of them have been by parties with a legitimate claim to the material. All the rest have been fraud. My most recent "pleasant" experience with ContentID was some scam copyright company claiming they owned the soundtrack to Elder Scrolls: Morrowind. The beauty of this system is that not only are they fraudulently claiming they own that content, but to get my video published I have to swear that I'm not stealing the content they actually stole. How do I report this scammer to YouTube? Well you can't. There's no automated way, and there's no support whatsoever. They can just scam in peace for years and years and nobody can do anything about it because nobody at Google cares. "Ethical". Riiight.
- ma2rten 10y ago
  https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en
  - blakeyrat 10y ago
    Of course you can DISPUTE the claim. And in fact actual scammers will release the claim right away because they make all their scam-dollars off old videos where people don't check the ContentID status every week. But there's no way to tell Google, "the guy making this claim doesn't own the content, he's a scammer". That's the feature I need. I am 100% certain that the company claiming to have owned Morrowind's music: 1) Is not Bethesda (the developer of the game) 2) Is not affiliated with Bethesda in any way 3) Has no right to the music But I have no way to communicate my research to Google. Because, guess what, those "ethical" Google employees make money off the scam, too! They take a percentage of all ad revenue, even if it's a ContentID scammer's ad revenue.