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They keep calling Trump a populist like it's some kind of insult. As though real politicians should be globalist, selfish opportunists who don't give a shit ab

They keep calling Trump a populist like it's some kind of insult. As though real politicians should be globalist, selfish opportunists who don't give a shit about the people or something. It's one thing to report on factual evidence that contradicts policy or positions, but the "news" outlets need to stop trying to blame/shame the American voter for the horrible performance of their anointed shit-tier candidate.

skylan_q 10y ago
He's a populist, which is bad, but lost the popular vote (which is probably the biggest marker of a populist) so therefore... what, where was I again?
- mcphage 10y ago
  > but lost the popular vote (which is probably the biggest marker of a populist) "Populist" is about his attitudes & political views, not about his relative popularity or the lack of it. It's related to "populace", not "popular".
0xfeba 10y ago
> They keep calling Trump a populist like it's some kind of insult. As though real politicians should be globalist, selfish opportunists who don't give a shit about the people or something. It's not just that he's a populist, although that's part of it (just saying extraordinary things to get people riled up--and then literally dismissing those things later saying "it worked great before the election but there's no interest now"). It that and that he is a globalist, selfish, opportunist that does not give a shit about the people. He's a billionaire elitist who's claiming to drain the swamp of elites. And then appoints more elites to cabinet positions. That is, he has all these populist claims but he's so clearly part of the problem, so why are voters buying it "hook, line, and sinker" so to speak?
- ryanx435 10y ago
  Ha ha ha he's not though. You dont know what a globalist is. Just being a billionaire doesn't mean he is a globalist. Running a multinational corporation doesn't mean he us a globalist. A globalist is someone who wants to subjugate the sovereignity of individual nation states under the power of a global government, whether overtly (the un) or covertly (bilderbergs/free masons/other conspiracy groups). His whole campaign was about increasing American sovereignity. Perhaps you've heard of his catch phrase, make America great again?
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    >A globalist is someone who wants to subjugate the sovereignity of individual nation states under the power of a global government, whether overtly (the un) or covertly (bilderbergs/free masons/other conspiracy groups). In that case, outside crazy conspiracy websites, there are basically no actual globalists on the planet. Literally zero office-holding politicians have proposed a world government.
    - ryanx435 10y ago
      Ha ha I actually agree with you, but it's funny how you immediately dismiss any possibilities for potential condraticting evidence. > outside crazy conspiracy websites You could potentially dismiss any Web source with this standard. What makes a website a crazy conspiracy web site? > basically no actual globalist on the planet The un is literally a globalist organization that nation states voluntarily subjugate their natonal sovereignity to. > literally zero. There is never literally zero of people holding various political beliefs. Anyways, I agree with you, but maybe you should reevaluate your critical thinking skills and base political assumptions.
      - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
        >The un is literally a globalist organization that nation states voluntarily subjugate their natonal sovereignity to. No, it isn't. Every country belonging to the UN is sovereign. The UN has zero legislative power, no enforcement arm, no army or police force. International law is still based on treaties between sovereign countries, not on a global legislature. >There is never literally zero of people holding various political beliefs. I did not say literally zero people. I said literally zero elected officials, which is a much smaller set of people with much more constrained political opinions. At worst, you could find a Green Party city official somewhere who might talk about world government if you get them thoroughly drunk.
- mi100hael 10y ago
  > He's a billionaire elitist who's claiming to drain the swamp of elites. And then appoints more elites to cabinet positions. "Elite" is a worthless word. What makes someone "elite?" Money? Political experience? Pinball skills? News outlets like NYTimes will jump all over his appointments regardless because if they are successful, accomplished individuals they will be labeled "elite," and if they aren't they will be labeled incompetent. The whole "drain the swamp" line is about rooting out shady, questionable, secretive behavior like Loretta Lynch meeting on the back of Clinton's plane or Holder running a bunch of guns to Mexican gangs. It's not about wealth or political views.
  - jadell 10y ago
    In which case, Trump is still guilty of being just as corrupt as any politician, since he lets his children (who are and will be running his business empire) sit in on meetings with world leaders where he has business dealings, and appoints to his Cabinet those who donated most to his campaign.
    - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
      As a matter of fact, he's set to violate the Emulements Clause of the Constitution on his first day in office, an impeachable offence, so he's considerably more corrupt than "any politician".

skylan_q 10y ago

He's a populist, which is bad, but lost the popular vote (which is probably the biggest marker of a populist) so therefore... what, where was I again?

mcphage 10y ago
> but lost the popular vote (which is probably the biggest marker of a populist) "Populist" is about his attitudes & political views, not about his relative popularity or the lack of it. It's related to "populace", not "popular".

0xfeba 10y ago

> They keep calling Trump a populist like it's some kind of insult. As though real politicians should be globalist, selfish opportunists who don't give a shit about the people or something. It's not just that he's a populist, although that's part of it (just saying extraordinary things to get people riled up--and then literally dismissing those things later saying "it worked great before the election but there's no interest now"). It that and that he is a globalist, selfish, opportunist that does not give a shit about the people. He's a billionaire elitist who's claiming to drain the swamp of elites. And then appoints more elites to cabinet positions. That is, he has all these populist claims but he's so clearly part of the problem, so why are voters buying it "hook, line, and sinker" so to speak?

ryanx435 10y ago
Ha ha ha he's not though. You dont know what a globalist is. Just being a billionaire doesn't mean he is a globalist. Running a multinational corporation doesn't mean he us a globalist. A globalist is someone who wants to subjugate the sovereignity of individual nation states under the power of a global government, whether overtly (the un) or covertly (bilderbergs/free masons/other conspiracy groups). His whole campaign was about increasing American sovereignity. Perhaps you've heard of his catch phrase, make America great again?
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  >A globalist is someone who wants to subjugate the sovereignity of individual nation states under the power of a global government, whether overtly (the un) or covertly (bilderbergs/free masons/other conspiracy groups). In that case, outside crazy conspiracy websites, there are basically no actual globalists on the planet. Literally zero office-holding politicians have proposed a world government.
  - ryanx435 10y ago
    Ha ha I actually agree with you, but it's funny how you immediately dismiss any possibilities for potential condraticting evidence. > outside crazy conspiracy websites You could potentially dismiss any Web source with this standard. What makes a website a crazy conspiracy web site? > basically no actual globalist on the planet The un is literally a globalist organization that nation states voluntarily subjugate their natonal sovereignity to. > literally zero. There is never literally zero of people holding various political beliefs. Anyways, I agree with you, but maybe you should reevaluate your critical thinking skills and base political assumptions.
    - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
      >The un is literally a globalist organization that nation states voluntarily subjugate their natonal sovereignity to. No, it isn't. Every country belonging to the UN is sovereign. The UN has zero legislative power, no enforcement arm, no army or police force. International law is still based on treaties between sovereign countries, not on a global legislature. >There is never literally zero of people holding various political beliefs. I did not say literally zero people. I said literally zero elected officials, which is a much smaller set of people with much more constrained political opinions. At worst, you could find a Green Party city official somewhere who might talk about world government if you get them thoroughly drunk.
mi100hael 10y ago
> He's a billionaire elitist who's claiming to drain the swamp of elites. And then appoints more elites to cabinet positions. "Elite" is a worthless word. What makes someone "elite?" Money? Political experience? Pinball skills? News outlets like NYTimes will jump all over his appointments regardless because if they are successful, accomplished individuals they will be labeled "elite," and if they aren't they will be labeled incompetent. The whole "drain the swamp" line is about rooting out shady, questionable, secretive behavior like Loretta Lynch meeting on the back of Clinton's plane or Holder running a bunch of guns to Mexican gangs. It's not about wealth or political views.
- jadell 10y ago
  In which case, Trump is still guilty of being just as corrupt as any politician, since he lets his children (who are and will be running his business empire) sit in on meetings with world leaders where he has business dealings, and appoints to his Cabinet those who donated most to his campaign.
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    As a matter of fact, he's set to violate the Emulements Clause of the Constitution on his first day in office, an impeachable offence, so he's considerably more corrupt than "any politician".