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But are their engineering practices better? They used to take test seriously, but then they fired all the testers and quality of basic things has slipped. They
by nxc18 10y ago
But are their engineering practices better? They used to take test seriously, but then they fired all the testers and quality of basic things has slipped. They don't even hire for dedicated testing roles any more.
I get that devs are supposed to test their own code, but they are surprisingly bad at it overall and unit tests, despite being a great meme, just don't cut it.
Some examples of quality issues: new limit to how many items can be in the start menu. I see bugs/rendering issues in Word for the first time ever (Windows and Mac). Edge is glitch when opening/closing tabs.
- omouse 10y agoThat's interesting to hear because I was reading the Software Project Survival Guide and it said that, at the time, Microsoft knew the value of quality because their tester to developer ratio was 1 to 1. Higher quality code had a ratio of up to 4 testers per developer. Low quality code is usually the opposite ratio, 1 tester for every 3-4 developers.
- patja 10y agoA problem with assessing Microsoft's engineering culture and practices is that at Microsoft is there is no consistent unifying set of engineering practices. Product teams need to comply with some standard processes around security and the like, but as to how they run their teams they are allowed to chart their own course, more or less.