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The blackmailing scheme that Eyeo calls "Acceptable ads" is untenable because it is simply blackmail. Pay us protection money and sell our approved goods or sel
by aggronn 10y ago
The blackmailing scheme that Eyeo calls "Acceptable ads" is untenable because it is simply blackmail. Pay us protection money and sell our approved goods or sell nothing. Google will pay it because they have the money and there isn't an immediate alternative for shareholder value, but there aren't many others who are willing to subsidize ad blocking at the expense of content creators. That all said...
There's actually a great deal of effort towards improving quality and dealing with ad blocking at a high level in the industry. One recent effort this year is https://www.betterads.org/ https://www.betterads.org/ but there are other initiatives lead by new adtech companies and other organizations.
As a result, I'm confident that ad quality will increase over the next few years overall. But like you say, its an intractable problem. Its not as simple as improving quality on the already reasonably good 75% of adverising that isn't so bad.
The bottom of the barrel inventory is likely not going to rise with the change of the tide, for example. If you're trying to stream pirated TV shows or watch porn you're dealing with the North Koreas of the adversiting industry--they're already cut off and live in their own world, and won't follow industry initiatives that publishers like NYT will want. Unfortunately many, many people have no problem with advertising generally but install ad blockers in order to access these sites, and the sites no one had an issue with are just collateral damage.
Moreover, many people install ad blockers because, lets be honest: why not? No more pre-roll video. Faster page loads. More premium consumption experience (most) everywhere you go. How do you address those users with better ads?
And the cat is already out of the bag anyway. 25% of people on the internet use ad blockers. If you improve ad quality, how do you get these people back? I think we're going to see a radical, unequal shift in the next fews years around the perceived value of content because of the growth of ad blocking. If you told me 10 years ago that everyone was going to be paying $10/mo for music, I wouldn't have believed you, yet here we are. I think if you ask me this time, I'd say in 10 years people will be more inclined to pay for digital content than they've ever been, because as ad blocking grows, the "anti-ad blockers" are going to grow too. More messaging to users about ad blocking, more paywalls, more access control requiring equitable value exchange across the internet. Eventually the middle will get squeezed out by the high cost of ad blocking. Users will choose to whitelist or subscribe for premium content, and the lowest cost publishers who steal, copy, or lie to generate clickbait are the only people who can survive when they've lost half their inventory.
> It seems like an intractable problem. I'm not convinced technology (machine learning! the solution to all problems!) is capable of providing the solution.
You're absolutely right. This is not going to be solved by machine learning. Ad blocking is an economic and political problem, and will only go away when publishers, advertisers, and users are able to come back into equilibrium. Publishers need more leverage to fight for user experience against advertisers' demands, and users need to understand the value exchange that occurs when they get targeted apple adaptor ads while they read articles about the latest iPhone. Publishers need to offer users more diverse but more firm and equitable options that make quality content sustainable and appealing to even the most privacy oriented audiences. Eyeo need to realize that profiteering on a protest movement is not a ethical business model. Easylist maintainers need to realize that they are not profits sent from god to punish publishers for protecting the value of their content.
- bluetwo 10y agoI agree that the real solution is that there has to be a pay model that works. I don't want to pay $99 per year for every newspaper site I might visit, but I would pay $99 per year for some consolidated and trustworthy news source that gathered the news I needed from the places I need it. There has to be better content tools rather than better ad tools. Paying zero dollars for news and content is a failed experiment.
- cjCamel 10y agoThis. I assume there is some legacy inertia or opposing force to this in the publishing industry - would be interested to understand the thinking, as it seems like an obvious win for publishers.
- jnnl 10y agoYou should check Blendle.com. You Can pay per article.
- bluetwo 10y agoI just signed up for the beta. Looks interesting. It did have to do a double-take as it looks to be part of Medium, which just shut down two major offices and laid off a bunch of people today. Hoping for the best!
- mnm1 10y agoAd blocking will never go away. The time for that has passed; the trust has been lost. Regardless of what the industry does, you will never convince anyone who has discovered ad blocking--which can now be properly known as a part of malware blocking--to open their computers to these same people that fucked them (or people like them) over already. This is purely fantasy.
- alkonaut 10y agoI'll happily turn off my ad blocker when it no longer blocks any ads. Hopefully it's because ads are simply static images and text content, served by the target site. Once that happens, I don't mind them. It's not seeing ads that I worry about, it's the ads seeing me. What needs to happen is that both publishers and advertisers need to understand that the time when you could charge per click/impression or show "targeted ads" depending on who your viewer is - is soon over.