I'm not talking about web applications. I'm talking about systems programming. Even the operating systems written in Rust use unsafe pretty conservatively. Serv

I'm not talking about web applications. I'm talking about systems programming. Even the operating systems written in Rust use unsafe pretty conservatively. Servo uses unsafe mostly to talk to native libraries. Rust is used more for lower level programming than it is for webapps as far as I can tell. You might want to define further what you mean by "raw memory here". Rust lets you work with arrays and vectors and the heap safely just fine. These are designed as zero-cost abstractions over raw memory (slices, Vec<T>, Box<T>). The equivalent C (with relevant bounds checks) wouldn't be any faster. Rust does not let you do things like call out directly to malloc/free safely. But that's okay. The existence of these abstractions means that you rarely have to do this. > And that's what I wrote. .... huh? that's exactly why I put "sure" there, that means I agree with that statement, what followed was why I disagree with the conclusions.