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IMO xeons are the most confusing, especially since they often run behind by a year or so. E3 vs E5 vs v2, vs v3, va v4, vs v5 vs core clock speed (important for

by mrmondo 10y ago

IMO xeons are the most confusing, especially since they often run behind by a year or so. E3 vs E5 vs v2, vs v3, va v4, vs v5 vs core clock speed (important for single threaded apps and databases) vs multicore horizontal scale, 2650 v3 doesn't really explain the generation, clock speed, cache size or number of cores (maybe I'm stupid?)

dsp1234 10y ago
Definitely. Xeons are targetted towards businesses, which generally have a wider variance of needs. So at that point, what can you do but give it a code name, and plenty of documentation. Clicking on the Xeon E5 v3 family link[0] and then click on "Compare All", takes to a page that has a feature by feature comparison of all of those processors[1], which you can use to pin down the specific processor to meet your needs. [0] - http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78583/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-v3-Family#@Server http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78583/Intel-Xeon-Proces... [1] - http://ark.intel.com/compare/?ids=85766,85765,85764,85763,85762,85760,85759,85758,85757,81061,81060,81059,81057,81713,81909,81055,81908,81709,83361,81706,81903,81705,81900,83359,83358,83357,83356,83354,83352,81897,83349,82763,82764,82765,82766,82767 http://ark.intel.com/compare/?ids=85766,85765,85764,85763,85...
dvt 10y ago
I'd say Xeons are actually less confusing, given that they have an actual naming convention[1]. EX = product line vX = generation The clock speed omission is a bummer, but Xeons have two different clock speeds on all processors (one turbo -- which only a certain percentage of the cores can hit simultaneously), so things are a bit more complicated. [1] https://semiaccurate.com/assets/uploads/2011/04/xeonmodels.png https://semiaccurate.com/assets/uploads/2011/04/xeonmodels.p...
- gpderetta 10y ago
  also core count varies between xeon version in the same generation/product line.
snuxoll 10y ago
Xeons are a little more confusing, E3/E5/E7 (market segment + socket), the first digit is the socket configuration (2/4/8), the next 3 digits are a model number and the vX at the end is the CPU generation. The Xeon E3-1220v2 in my ProLiant ML10 is a lower-end, single socket Xeon in a fairly high performance segment. The Xeon E5-2403v2 in my ThinkServer TD340 is a mid-range, dual socket Xeon in a fairly low performance segment. The fact that the 3 digit identifier has no relation to overall performance is the biggest shame in the Xeon chips, considering Intel does this with the Core i3/i5/i7 products. OTOH, Xeon's can vary so wildly it's hard to give a tangible performance or configuration metric to the model identifier. Things like overall CPU cache, core count, clock speed, expansion support (namely, number of PCIe lanes) all vary so much that you really have no choice but to look at ARK since there's no way to convey this in a more efficient manner.

by mrmondo 10y ago

dsp1234 10y ago

Definitely. Xeons are targetted towards businesses, which generally have a wider variance of needs. So at that point, what can you do but give it a code name, and plenty of documentation. Clicking on the Xeon E5 v3 family link[0] and then click on "Compare All", takes to a page that has a feature by feature comparison of all of those processors[1], which you can use to pin down the specific processor to meet your needs. [0] - http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78583/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-v3-Family#@Server http://ark.intel.com/products/family/78583/Intel-Xeon-Proces... [1] - http://ark.intel.com/compare/?ids=85766,85765,85764,85763,85762,85760,85759,85758,85757,81061,81060,81059,81057,81713,81909,81055,81908,81709,83361,81706,81903,81705,81900,83359,83358,83357,83356,83354,83352,81897,83349,82763,82764,82765,82766,82767 http://ark.intel.com/compare/?ids=85766,85765,85764,85763,85...

dvt 10y ago

I'd say Xeons are actually less confusing, given that they have an actual naming convention[1]. EX = product line vX = generation The clock speed omission is a bummer, but Xeons have two different clock speeds on all processors (one turbo -- which only a certain percentage of the cores can hit simultaneously), so things are a bit more complicated. [1] https://semiaccurate.com/assets/uploads/2011/04/xeonmodels.png https://semiaccurate.com/assets/uploads/2011/04/xeonmodels.p...

gpderetta 10y ago
also core count varies between xeon version in the same generation/product line.

snuxoll 10y ago

Xeons are a little more confusing, E3/E5/E7 (market segment + socket), the first digit is the socket configuration (2/4/8), the next 3 digits are a model number and the vX at the end is the CPU generation. The Xeon E3-1220v2 in my ProLiant ML10 is a lower-end, single socket Xeon in a fairly high performance segment. The Xeon E5-2403v2 in my ThinkServer TD340 is a mid-range, dual socket Xeon in a fairly low performance segment. The fact that the 3 digit identifier has no relation to overall performance is the biggest shame in the Xeon chips, considering Intel does this with the Core i3/i5/i7 products. OTOH, Xeon's can vary so wildly it's hard to give a tangible performance or configuration metric to the model identifier. Things like overall CPU cache, core count, clock speed, expansion support (namely, number of PCIe lanes) all vary so much that you really have no choice but to look at ARK since there's no way to convey this in a more efficient manner.