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I worked on a platform for EU law for about half a year and got quite deep into Akoma Ntoso. It's certainly the right direction but it was unfortunately extreme

I worked on a platform for EU law for about half a year and got quite deep into Akoma Ntoso. It's certainly the right direction but it was unfortunately extremely difficult to even get an overview of the status. The various websites felt dead and the documentation wasn't inspiring my confidence either – IIRC it was actually provided as a word document :). Plus, I just couldn't find anybody publicly using it. The EU parliament supposedly does, but they could never give me an answer why they weren't sharing it online (only .doc and .pdf).

ocky7 10y ago
Apparently, the UN and some African countries also make use of Akoma Ntoso, but like you I've never seen it in practice. Open data is not provided well. For example, it is possible to get XML documents from the EU parliament, but you have to request access to their FTP server and it is a laborious process. I've met Monica Palmirani of Akoma Ntoso recently and she told me they have just launched a case law standard, and so they're still working on it. I'm actually amazed she hasn't burned out yet. Trying to get governments to play nice data-wise is i n c r e d i b l y hard.
- oever 10y ago
  The case-law standard is called ECLI. It's used in a few countries and being rolled out in more. At least one Dutch news paper uses ECLI when referring to court cases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECLI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECLI http://bo-ecli.eu/ http://bo-ecli.eu/ Dutch law and government publications are available as XML and ODF. The constitution: http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0001840/2008-07-15 http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0001840/2008-07-15 A publication about standards: https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stcrt-2015-39782.html https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stcrt-2015-39782.htm... Each article can be linked and documents referring to each article can be found as well. For example all known documents that link to article 5 (equality) of the constitution: http://linkeddata.overheid.nl/embedded/portal/spiegel-lijstweergave?juriconnect=jci1.3%3ac%3aBWBR0001840%26hoofdstuk%3d1%26artikel%3d1%26z%3d2008-07-15%26g%3d2008-07-15 http://linkeddata.overheid.nl/embedded/portal/spiegel-lijstw... The links are available as RDF. Currently work is underway to publish law as XML and RDF with ODF/PDF/HTML as secondary formats. This will allow embedding of data such as property lines, lists of medicines, reusable financial reports.

ocky7 10y ago

Apparently, the UN and some African countries also make use of Akoma Ntoso, but like you I've never seen it in practice. Open data is not provided well. For example, it is possible to get XML documents from the EU parliament, but you have to request access to their FTP server and it is a laborious process. I've met Monica Palmirani of Akoma Ntoso recently and she told me they have just launched a case law standard, and so they're still working on it. I'm actually amazed she hasn't burned out yet. Trying to get governments to play nice data-wise is i n c r e d i b l y hard.

oever 10y ago
The case-law standard is called ECLI. It's used in a few countries and being rolled out in more. At least one Dutch news paper uses ECLI when referring to court cases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECLI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECLI http://bo-ecli.eu/ http://bo-ecli.eu/ Dutch law and government publications are available as XML and ODF. The constitution: http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0001840/2008-07-15 http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0001840/2008-07-15 A publication about standards: https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stcrt-2015-39782.html https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stcrt-2015-39782.htm... Each article can be linked and documents referring to each article can be found as well. For example all known documents that link to article 5 (equality) of the constitution: http://linkeddata.overheid.nl/embedded/portal/spiegel-lijstweergave?juriconnect=jci1.3%3ac%3aBWBR0001840%26hoofdstuk%3d1%26artikel%3d1%26z%3d2008-07-15%26g%3d2008-07-15 http://linkeddata.overheid.nl/embedded/portal/spiegel-lijstw... The links are available as RDF. Currently work is underway to publish law as XML and RDF with ODF/PDF/HTML as secondary formats. This will allow embedding of data such as property lines, lists of medicines, reusable financial reports.