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Much of the discussion in this thread is worryingly callous and dismissive. This is a first person account of an activist starving themselves to death in the s

Much of the discussion in this thread is worryingly callous and dismissive. This is a first person account of an activist starving themselves to death in the service of a selfless and unviolent cause.

zzalpha 10y ago
"This is a first person account of a confessed, unrepentant criminal starving themselves to death because they don't feel they should be punished for their crimes." Amazing how framing makes a difference, isn't it?
- forumSzliding 10y ago
  Slippery slopes all around. Hopefully he won't die though, or be tortured with force feeding, because the shit his did is pretty tame, pretty boring, and pretty inconsequential. It's, like, on the level of shop lifting bubble gum, regardless of whatever intellectual psychobabble anyone wants to heap on top of it. I've probably endangered more lives with multiple counts of reckless driving, been arrested for it, AND released in under thirty hours with a ~$500 fine, kept my licence and no misdemeanors on my record. Think about it.
  - zzalpha 10y ago
    Hopefully he won't die though, or be tortured with force feeding While I disagree what he did was as minor as you claim, I agree with that, and would agree with that no matter what he did. It begs an interesting question, though: suppose a confessed murderer went on a hunger strike, refusing to eat until they were acquitted (err, and to be clear, I'm not saying this case is equivalent to murder... just using it as an example). What do you do? I honestly am unsure of the ethics. Forced feeding sounds awful, but anything else is effectively enabling suicide... The alternative is to bend to their wishes, but that sets a very dangerous precedent that threatening suicide is an effective means of manipulating the criminal justice system.
    - forumSzliding 10y ago
      Stand this case next to Dylan Roof's death penalty trial. Ain't no comparison. Quit gettin' mad at video games.
    - pmyteh 10y ago
      The Suffragettes did this in the UK to either force their release/transfer to 'political' first-class prison status or martyrdom. The government passed the so-called 'cat and mouse act' with temporary release followed by re-incarceration. Not clear it worked out well, though.

zzalpha 10y ago

"This is a first person account of a confessed, unrepentant criminal starving themselves to death because they don't feel they should be punished for their crimes." Amazing how framing makes a difference, isn't it?

forumSzliding 10y ago
Slippery slopes all around. Hopefully he won't die though, or be tortured with force feeding, because the shit his did is pretty tame, pretty boring, and pretty inconsequential. It's, like, on the level of shop lifting bubble gum, regardless of whatever intellectual psychobabble anyone wants to heap on top of it. I've probably endangered more lives with multiple counts of reckless driving, been arrested for it, AND released in under thirty hours with a ~$500 fine, kept my licence and no misdemeanors on my record. Think about it.
- zzalpha 10y ago
  Hopefully he won't die though, or be tortured with force feeding While I disagree what he did was as minor as you claim, I agree with that, and would agree with that no matter what he did. It begs an interesting question, though: suppose a confessed murderer went on a hunger strike, refusing to eat until they were acquitted (err, and to be clear, I'm not saying this case is equivalent to murder... just using it as an example). What do you do? I honestly am unsure of the ethics. Forced feeding sounds awful, but anything else is effectively enabling suicide... The alternative is to bend to their wishes, but that sets a very dangerous precedent that threatening suicide is an effective means of manipulating the criminal justice system.
  - forumSzliding 10y ago
    Stand this case next to Dylan Roof's death penalty trial. Ain't no comparison. Quit gettin' mad at video games.
  - pmyteh 10y ago
    The Suffragettes did this in the UK to either force their release/transfer to 'political' first-class prison status or martyrdom. The government passed the so-called 'cat and mouse act' with temporary release followed by re-incarceration. Not clear it worked out well, though.