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>I had gotten a ticket for obstructing the intersection (the "anti-congestion" law in California that sought to limit gridlock by making it illegal to enter an

>I had gotten a ticket for obstructing the intersection (the "anti-congestion" law in California that sought to limit gridlock by making it illegal to enter an intersection that you couldn't exit before the other light changed). You monster. :)

diogenescynic 10y ago
To be fair, there is a lot of traffic created from this problem--especially in the Financial District in San Francisco. Whereas NYC has those "don't block the box" signs and it seems like their drivers are much more aware of it.
- marcoperaza 10y ago
  Oh, I agree. I was gently chiding OP. I think blocking the intersection like that is one of those things that everyone hates, but has also committed at one point or another. Though from his explanation of the situation in another subthread, it sounds like he was in the right after all.
  - braveo 10y ago
    No one is going to explain how they're wrong, if he was ticketed the officer involved had a perspective that included him not being in the right.
- cletus 10y ago
  I don't know what NYC you're referring to but the one I live in has huge problems with asshats blocking intersections and I've never once seen the NYPD pick up anyone for it (or any other traffic violation). Of course why anyone drives in Manhattan is beyond me.
  - jrockway 10y ago
    If there's one thing New Yorkers like doing, it's blocking the box. I haven't seen the grid get locked though.
- greenleafjacob 10y ago
  SF does have these signs, for example on Battery crossing onto Market [1] (including most intersections onto Market). Unfortunately it doesn't look like the intersection I see block most often (California / Montgomery) has any, and I've been honked at plenty of times waiting for the intersection to clear, so education is probably pretty bad. [1] https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Francisco,+CA/@37.7914051,-122.3995502,3a,15y,200.15h,97.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHtmGgcgyd1PHLtynuCEEvQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DHtmGgcgyd1PHLtynuCEEvQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.9824%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80859a6d00690021:0x4a501367f076adff!8m2!3d37.7749295!4d-122.4194155 https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Francisco,+CA/@37.7914...
- inferiorhuman 10y ago
  Oh it's not just traffic. It makes it dangerous for pedestrians as well. You're either waiting patiently for the intersection to clear (hint: it won't) or you're walking in traffic, around the obstruction. I suppose the latter isn't so bad until someone else that's blocking the box tries to move and nearly runs you over. The MTA has the right approach. At a number of intersections downtown the traffic enforcement guys just hang out at the intersection taking pictures and writing down license plates of folks who block the box.
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diogenescynic 10y ago

To be fair, there is a lot of traffic created from this problem--especially in the Financial District in San Francisco. Whereas NYC has those "don't block the box" signs and it seems like their drivers are much more aware of it.

marcoperaza 10y ago
Oh, I agree. I was gently chiding OP. I think blocking the intersection like that is one of those things that everyone hates, but has also committed at one point or another. Though from his explanation of the situation in another subthread, it sounds like he was in the right after all.
- braveo 10y ago
  No one is going to explain how they're wrong, if he was ticketed the officer involved had a perspective that included him not being in the right.
cletus 10y ago
I don't know what NYC you're referring to but the one I live in has huge problems with asshats blocking intersections and I've never once seen the NYPD pick up anyone for it (or any other traffic violation). Of course why anyone drives in Manhattan is beyond me.
- jrockway 10y ago
  If there's one thing New Yorkers like doing, it's blocking the box. I haven't seen the grid get locked though.
greenleafjacob 10y ago
SF does have these signs, for example on Battery crossing onto Market [1] (including most intersections onto Market). Unfortunately it doesn't look like the intersection I see block most often (California / Montgomery) has any, and I've been honked at plenty of times waiting for the intersection to clear, so education is probably pretty bad. [1] https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Francisco,+CA/@37.7914051,-122.3995502,3a,15y,200.15h,97.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHtmGgcgyd1PHLtynuCEEvQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DHtmGgcgyd1PHLtynuCEEvQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.9824%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x80859a6d00690021:0x4a501367f076adff!8m2!3d37.7749295!4d-122.4194155 https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Francisco,+CA/@37.7914...
inferiorhuman 10y ago
Oh it's not just traffic. It makes it dangerous for pedestrians as well. You're either waiting patiently for the intersection to clear (hint: it won't) or you're walking in traffic, around the obstruction. I suppose the latter isn't so bad until someone else that's blocking the box tries to move and nearly runs you over. The MTA has the right approach. At a number of intersections downtown the traffic enforcement guys just hang out at the intersection taking pictures and writing down license plates of folks who block the box.

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