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As with many things, Singapore seems to have a sensible plan that is neither 100% government managed nor 100% private: - Saving is compulsory and amounts to ar
by smallnamespace 10y ago
As with many things, Singapore seems to have a sensible plan that is neither 100% government managed nor 100% private:
- Saving is compulsory and amounts to around 15% of wages for the worker, and another 15% to the employer
- Principal growth depends on how the investment performs, but government guarantees at least 2.5%, which is around what you can get from just buying a 30-year Singapore gov't bond
- Account holders can choose a restricted number of asset classes to invest in (e.g. ETFs, bonds, gold), but you can't just put it all in a penny stock
- You can use the saved funds for health care, housing, education, and a limited number of other needs until retirement -- no taking all the money out and betting it on black
Long-term financial planning is inherently risky. Governments aren't necessarily good at managing that risk, but then shoving all that responsibility onto individuals doesn't work that well either, because the truth is that if someone screws up and becomes totally indigent, society still needs to bail them out, if only through paying huge emergency room bills.
This seems like a sane compromise: the worker and the government split the risk, but the government also sets sane defaults for employees. [2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Provident_Fund https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Provident_Fund
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_paternalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_paternalism
- crdoconnor 10y ago>You can use the saved funds for health care, housing, education, and a limited number of other needs until retirement A lot of people earn very little and use CPF all up on housing and healthcare (especially if they have a health problem) and are left working menial jobs mopping floors practically until death. It's pretty heart-rending to see elderly hunchbacked men and women cleaning up empty dishes (or selling tissues) underneath glittery multimillion dollar condos built by Bangladeshi migrant workers, but that's Singapore.
- hackerboos 10y agoWhy are so many people Singapore working into their 70s? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-06/what-retirement-singapore-older-workers-stay-on-the-job https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-06/what-reti...
- smallnamespace 10y agoProbably because their savings were still insufficient for their needs, because they didn't get paid enough during their working years. I'm not claiming that Singapore's system solves all edge cases (no system can), just that the current scheme seems like a sane, rational compromise between total or zero freedom.