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Fascinating collection of "insights" you have there. > They failed to have a unified front on the Iraq war. All member states of the EU consider pluralism a c
by jlg23 10y ago
Fascinating collection of "insights" you have there.
> They failed to have a unified front on the Iraq war.
All member states of the EU consider pluralism a core value. But yes, it would have been much nicer if all of Europe had just said "no".
> They failed to provide any military deterrence to the Russian federation
After a few hundred years of cultural exchange on an amicable level and another 50 years of a forced, much tighter relation between Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, one cannot seriously expect Europe to fight the US' war against someone most still consider a friend. Oh yes, we, as Europeans, also don't need to turn Europe into a war zone just to satisfy US geopolitical dreams. Or maybe it is just the memory of fighting in our home countries that makes us understand that we don't want this.
> And now they failed to persuade one of their most powerful members from leaving.
If you had followed European pre-Brexit news, you'd know that all reporting was against Brexit and that the vote for Brexit surprised even those who fought for it.
I'm definitely no fan of the EU, but unsubstantiated generalities won't help you make your point.
- krona 10y ago> After a few hundred years of cultural exchange on an amicable level Do you know how many times Poland has been invaded or partitioned in the past 300 years? How about all the map redrawing in Europe over the past 1000 years? I'm guessing this too was completely amicable and was primarily just an excuse to ramble across the Prussian countryside? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2LgiMMGf6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2LgiMMGf6Q > Oh yes, we, as Europeans, also don't need to turn Europe into a war zone just to satisfy US geopolitical dreams. Unsubstantiated generalities won't help you make your point.
- jlg23 10y ago> Do you know how many times Poland has been invaded or partitioned in the past 300 years? 177 years. Poland has not existed as a sovereign country from 1795 to 1918. Since not even the Polish can agree on an answer to your question, I'll refrain from it as well. > How about all the map redrawing in Europe over the past 1000 years? Excluding islands, not much worse or better than anywhere else in the world? If you look at any of the published/leaked scenarios for US/RU-wars: All of them predict that the most heavy fighting will be in Europe, unless it's just nuked en passant.
- krona 10y ago> 177 years. Ughh. That's like saying the UK has only existed for 301 years; It's the answer of an idiot savant.