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Beside saving the planet, we actually don't need to eat a lot of meat, once or twice a week should be sufficient in terms of health benefit.

isaac_is_goat 10y ago
You don't need any meat. There's no health benefit from meat you can't get from plants, and plenty of things in meat that are horrible for your health.
- ajanuary 10y ago
  I know this isn't the point you were making, but I wanted to take the opportunity to do a PSA. While it's true you don't need any meat, it's not true you can get everything you need from an unsupplimented vegan diet (more accurately, it's incredibly hard). If you're looking at a vegan diet, consider researching supplements such as for B12. If you're lazy and in the UK, Holland and Barret sell a single tablet supplement designed for a vegan diet (just ignore all of the other bollocks they sell in there)
  - isaac_is_goat 10y ago
    Everyone should be conscious of B12 and be supplementing. It's dirt cheap, and crucial to proper brain function. Last time I checked something like 40% of Americans are deficient or borderline deficient but less than 3% are vegan. Humans don't get B12 from dirty water and trace amounts of dirt on vegetables like we used to thousands of years ago and a lot of people aren't getting enough from the meat they are eating. B12 from meat is usually coming by proxy through the animal because farmers typically supplement the animals with it too. B12 is an issue for everyone.
Pxtl 10y ago
Iirc, from a land management perspective this is also the most efficient - some land is only good for livestock, not people. So while a vegan diet is a close second for "most efficient use of Earth's bounty" the ideal approach for that is a small amount of animal products. That said, we don't need meat. There are countless healthy vegans and vegetarians that are living proof of this.

isaac_is_goat 10y ago

You don't need any meat. There's no health benefit from meat you can't get from plants, and plenty of things in meat that are horrible for your health.

ajanuary 10y ago
I know this isn't the point you were making, but I wanted to take the opportunity to do a PSA. While it's true you don't need any meat, it's not true you can get everything you need from an unsupplimented vegan diet (more accurately, it's incredibly hard). If you're looking at a vegan diet, consider researching supplements such as for B12. If you're lazy and in the UK, Holland and Barret sell a single tablet supplement designed for a vegan diet (just ignore all of the other bollocks they sell in there)
- isaac_is_goat 10y ago
  Everyone should be conscious of B12 and be supplementing. It's dirt cheap, and crucial to proper brain function. Last time I checked something like 40% of Americans are deficient or borderline deficient but less than 3% are vegan. Humans don't get B12 from dirty water and trace amounts of dirt on vegetables like we used to thousands of years ago and a lot of people aren't getting enough from the meat they are eating. B12 from meat is usually coming by proxy through the animal because farmers typically supplement the animals with it too. B12 is an issue for everyone.

Pxtl 10y ago

Iirc, from a land management perspective this is also the most efficient - some land is only good for livestock, not people. So while a vegan diet is a close second for "most efficient use of Earth's bounty" the ideal approach for that is a small amount of animal products. That said, we don't need meat. There are countless healthy vegans and vegetarians that are living proof of this.