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REMOTE ONLY GitLab - We're hiring production engineers, service engineers, developers, business development reps, and director level positions, see https://abou

REMOTE ONLY GitLab - We're hiring production engineers, service engineers, developers, business development reps, and director level positions, see https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/ https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/ We're a remote only company so everyone can participate and contribute equally. GitLab Community Edition is an open-source Ruby on Rails project with over 1000 contributors.

dominotw 10y ago
>Avoid the confidence gap; you do not have to match all the listed requirements exactly to apply. > Recruiting team does a first round of evaluations. Disqualified candidates should be sent a note informing them of the rejection. Do you tell people why they were 'disqualified' ?
- balasankarc 10y ago
  Yes. https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/hiring/#rejecting-applicants https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/hiring/#rejecting-applican...
  - dominotw 10y ago
    Wow, thats awesome. I should have asked for feedback when I got 'not moving forward' email when I applied last time. That recruiting page is really great and detailed too.
    - sashagitlab 10y ago
      Hey there! If you're curious about feedback you can email me directly at sasha@gitlab.com and I can look up your application and share any feedback with you!
  - viraptor 10y ago
    Not always. I never got a reply. (re. the rejection reason)
    - ernstvn 10y ago
      viraptor, please send an email to Sasha (email above), she can track down what went wrong in your case and make sure you receive the feedback.
    - sashagitlab 10y ago
      Hi Viraptor- as Ernst said, if you email me directly at sasha@gitlab.com I'd be happy to share feedback with you!
      - viraptor 10y ago
        I did and Sasha dug out the interview notes from a few months ago. Kudos!
- timonovici 10y ago
  From first hand experience - no. Even if you ask politely.
  - sashagitlab 10y ago
    Hey There! If you've applied with GitLab and the past and asked for feedback, but not received it I'm sincerely sorry. Please feel free to reach out directly to me (sasha@gitlab.com) and I will try to find the details of your interview process and provide feedback.
    - timonovici 10y ago
      Sure :) I'm still curious, although it happened a few months ago, and I got hired since. It's seems kinda unfair though, for the people who never got a message back, because they don't know the right person to ask, or they don't follow hacker news.
alantudyk 10y ago
Guys who are applying to Gitlab, make sure you checkout the compensation for your experience and geographic location https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/#compensation https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/#compensation . This may bite you in the later stages of the interview. If you look at the extremes, the salary you would get in Luanda, Angola is 1500% more than what you get if you were in Valenzuela, Philippines.
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- jamie_ca 10y ago
  On the bright side, it's seriously awesome that they're so transparent about salaries.
  - alantudyk 10y ago
    That really depends on where you live :) Not so bright, If you are living in a country which has a low rent index. The calculation is really messed up, rent index should be a contributor not a multiplier.
    - sashagitlab 10y ago
      Hey there! Thanks for the feedback. I'm part of the PeopleOps team at GitLab and we are always looking to improve our comp. calculator. We know it isn't perfect yet and we need feedback from everyone to create the most fair and accurate compensation calculator for everyone. If you want to share your experience and suggestions with me, I'd be happy to chat with you directly and share them with our internal compensation committee. Feel free to email me at sasha@gitlab.com !
      - vilya 10y ago
        I like that you guys are being open about this, but the way you calculate compensation leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth. I very much dislike the idea that you, as an employer, are deciding what proportion of their income your employees should be spending on rent. You're also effectively saying that work done by someone who lives in a cheaper location is less valuable to the company than the same work done by someone who lives in a more expensive location. Maybe all employers do this and the only difference is that you guys are being honest about it, but still... yuck.
message 10y ago
What if I travel the world constantly? EU citizen. Last time I was home 1.5 years ago. Currently in Bangkok, Thailand. What my compensation country will be?
- sytse 10y ago
  We're still pinning down a definition but if it is for more than a few months we consider it a relocation. https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/#relocation https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/#relocat...
b3nj4m 10y ago
The rent multiplier for Seattle in the salary calculator is really low. :(
- dasil003 10y ago
  Oakland is almost that low and it's a 10-minute BART ride from downtown SF. It's ridiculous to have that much differential within a short commute distance, not to mention the variety of neighborhoods even within cities.
  - sytse 10y ago
    We might make an adjustment for Oakland since it is a fast growing city and market rates there tend to be higher.
    - ThePawnBreak 10y ago
      Why do you pay based on rent instead of market rate in the first place?
      - sytse 10y ago
        See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13307924 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13307924
- jplahn 10y ago
  I can't disagree. I love Gitlab but it would be hard to take a > 50% pay cut if I were to work there. That being said, I have full confidence in Gitlab and know they'll continue to improve these things!
flamedoge 10y ago
> Ruby experience For this position, a significant amount of experience with Ruby is a strict requirement. Perhaps a good idea to add developers(RoR)
- arihantar 10y ago
  Knowing Ruby is not a strict requirement for all the positions https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/ https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/. But for few it will be great if you know any scripting language and just basics of ruby.
vtsingaras 10y ago
You may wish to look into the workable form, the 'Were you referred by a Gitlab employee' field is marked as mandatory. (It kept throwing "can't be blank")
- sashagitlab 10y ago
  Hey There! Thanks for the note! We do wish that field to be mandatory, but we can definitely add "if not please insert N/A" Thanks so much for the heads up on that and glad to see you've applied :D
  - hamishtaplin 10y ago
    Your salary calculator also completely excludes cities in Wales, UK :(
    - ernstvn 10y ago
      hamishtaplin; unfortunately coverage is not fully global yet; I think we have about 372 cities in there at the moment. This draws from Numbeo.com's data set on rent indices. But if your city is not listed, our default solution is the following "If you live outside a metro region we base our offer upon the lowest rent index number of any metro region in your country (or state, in the case of the USA), if your country is listed"

dominotw 10y ago

>Avoid the confidence gap; you do not have to match all the listed requirements exactly to apply. > Recruiting team does a first round of evaluations. Disqualified candidates should be sent a note informing them of the rejection. Do you tell people why they were 'disqualified' ?

balasankarc 10y ago
Yes. https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/hiring/#rejecting-applicants https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/hiring/#rejecting-applican...
- dominotw 10y ago
  Wow, thats awesome. I should have asked for feedback when I got 'not moving forward' email when I applied last time. That recruiting page is really great and detailed too.
  - sashagitlab 10y ago
    Hey there! If you're curious about feedback you can email me directly at sasha@gitlab.com and I can look up your application and share any feedback with you!
- viraptor 10y ago
  Not always. I never got a reply. (re. the rejection reason)
  - ernstvn 10y ago
    viraptor, please send an email to Sasha (email above), she can track down what went wrong in your case and make sure you receive the feedback.
  - sashagitlab 10y ago
    Hi Viraptor- as Ernst said, if you email me directly at sasha@gitlab.com I'd be happy to share feedback with you!
    - viraptor 10y ago
      I did and Sasha dug out the interview notes from a few months ago. Kudos!
timonovici 10y ago
From first hand experience - no. Even if you ask politely.
- sashagitlab 10y ago
  Hey There! If you've applied with GitLab and the past and asked for feedback, but not received it I'm sincerely sorry. Please feel free to reach out directly to me (sasha@gitlab.com) and I will try to find the details of your interview process and provide feedback.
  - timonovici 10y ago
    Sure :) I'm still curious, although it happened a few months ago, and I got hired since. It's seems kinda unfair though, for the people who never got a message back, because they don't know the right person to ask, or they don't follow hacker news.

alantudyk 10y ago

Guys who are applying to Gitlab, make sure you checkout the compensation for your experience and geographic location https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/#compensation https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/#compensation . This may bite you in the later stages of the interview. If you look at the extremes, the salary you would get in Luanda, Angola is 1500% more than what you get if you were in Valenzuela, Philippines.

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jamie_ca 10y ago
On the bright side, it's seriously awesome that they're so transparent about salaries.
- alantudyk 10y ago
  That really depends on where you live :) Not so bright, If you are living in a country which has a low rent index. The calculation is really messed up, rent index should be a contributor not a multiplier.
  - sashagitlab 10y ago
    Hey there! Thanks for the feedback. I'm part of the PeopleOps team at GitLab and we are always looking to improve our comp. calculator. We know it isn't perfect yet and we need feedback from everyone to create the most fair and accurate compensation calculator for everyone. If you want to share your experience and suggestions with me, I'd be happy to chat with you directly and share them with our internal compensation committee. Feel free to email me at sasha@gitlab.com !
    - vilya 10y ago
      I like that you guys are being open about this, but the way you calculate compensation leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth. I very much dislike the idea that you, as an employer, are deciding what proportion of their income your employees should be spending on rent. You're also effectively saying that work done by someone who lives in a cheaper location is less valuable to the company than the same work done by someone who lives in a more expensive location. Maybe all employers do this and the only difference is that you guys are being honest about it, but still... yuck.

message 10y ago

What if I travel the world constantly? EU citizen. Last time I was home 1.5 years ago. Currently in Bangkok, Thailand. What my compensation country will be?

sytse 10y ago
We're still pinning down a definition but if it is for more than a few months we consider it a relocation. https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/#relocation https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/people-operations/#relocat...

b3nj4m 10y ago

The rent multiplier for Seattle in the salary calculator is really low. :(

dasil003 10y ago
Oakland is almost that low and it's a 10-minute BART ride from downtown SF. It's ridiculous to have that much differential within a short commute distance, not to mention the variety of neighborhoods even within cities.
- sytse 10y ago
  We might make an adjustment for Oakland since it is a fast growing city and market rates there tend to be higher.
  - ThePawnBreak 10y ago
    Why do you pay based on rent instead of market rate in the first place?
    - sytse 10y ago
      See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13307924 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13307924
jplahn 10y ago
I can't disagree. I love Gitlab but it would be hard to take a > 50% pay cut if I were to work there. That being said, I have full confidence in Gitlab and know they'll continue to improve these things!

flamedoge 10y ago

> Ruby experience For this position, a significant amount of experience with Ruby is a strict requirement. Perhaps a good idea to add developers(RoR)

arihantar 10y ago
Knowing Ruby is not a strict requirement for all the positions https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/ https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/. But for few it will be great if you know any scripting language and just basics of ruby.

vtsingaras 10y ago

You may wish to look into the workable form, the 'Were you referred by a Gitlab employee' field is marked as mandatory. (It kept throwing "can't be blank")

sashagitlab 10y ago
Hey There! Thanks for the note! We do wish that field to be mandatory, but we can definitely add "if not please insert N/A" Thanks so much for the heads up on that and glad to see you've applied :D
- hamishtaplin 10y ago
  Your salary calculator also completely excludes cities in Wales, UK :(
  - ernstvn 10y ago
    hamishtaplin; unfortunately coverage is not fully global yet; I think we have about 372 cities in there at the moment. This draws from Numbeo.com's data set on rent indices. But if your city is not listed, our default solution is the following "If you live outside a metro region we base our offer upon the lowest rent index number of any metro region in your country (or state, in the case of the USA), if your country is listed"