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In that case Jekyll or Middleman are not the implementations you want, but static site generators still work. There are various solutions with WordPress-like ad

by halomru 10y ago

In that case Jekyll or Middleman are not the implementations you want, but static site generators still work. There are various solutions with WordPress-like admin backends that produce static pages for the frontend.

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icebraining 10y ago
Is there any that is decent yet cheap? I've trying to find one for the small non-profit I help, but the open source implementations I found were at the toy stage (couldn't even embed a video) or Movable Type, which sounds great but at a price of $999, it's about $969 above what they can afford.
- therealmarv 10y ago
  Embedding video should be at that price level something like: Upload to Youtube, copy embed code into your YourPageGeneratorNameHere nearly all open source page generators I know support this. You maybe want to look into known very easy solutions like wordpress.com blogger etc. ?!
  - icebraining 10y ago
    Having to mess directly with HTML is too risky. Maybe it could work if it had a really easy to use version control, but I've never seen that either. Wordpress.com is expensive if you want "advanced" features like editing the CSS(!). As for Blogger, I don't want to tie them to a proprietary solution.
    - therealmarv 10y ago
      Hugo Youtube shortcode: https://gohugo.io/extras/shortcodes/#youtube https://gohugo.io/extras/shortcodes/#youtube one of many Jekyll plugins: https://gist.github.com/joelverhagen/1805814 https://gist.github.com/joelverhagen/1805814
      - icebraining 10y ago
        Thanks for the suggestions, but it requires them to edit Markdown, which is a no-go. I need a GUI. Is there an Hugo or Jekyll frontend that provides a GUI and supports those tags? I couldn't find one.
        therealmarv 10y ago
        You want a WYSIWYG editor which understands videos on the one side and a light blog posting engine on the other. I think something like this is not existing. Choose your devil: Go WordPress, go to a free service (like blogger) and put a custom domain in front, or accept that markdown can be used. A full featured blog editor which produces light static output is like a hybrid... it sounds to be heavy on the editor and transform part and light on the output... I think nobody is really targeting that on OSS. Update: Maybe take a closer look to OctoberCMS. It seems to go into your direction.
        icebraining 10y ago
        It does exists, it's called Movable Type, it's just expensive :) Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't seem like it generates static pages...? I'm keen on that because I really don't want to have to babysit the server and apply security fixes (I trust nginx to auto-update without breaking the site).
- illuminea 10y ago
  We're working on Strattic, which we are beta testing right now. It publishes CMSs as static sites. You can check it out here: https://strattic.com https://strattic.com.
kaishiro 10y ago
I actually disagree that Middleman isn't the right tool here - you're just relegating the content ownership to the wrong place. We run a number of multi user blogs in Middleman, but permissions and post ownership lives one level up on a cloud based CMS.
- vault_dweller 10y ago
  Could you, please, provide more details on this? I'm searching for the same solution. I'm planning a blogger-like static site generator. All media will be on external resources, and I want to keep maintenance price to a minimum (preferably zero) cost. Thanks.
  - kaishiro 10y ago
    Sure - we use Contentful as our cloud based CMS offering. There are a few other players here - but the only ones I can speak to would be Prismic and Siteleaf, both of which are really solid. Once you've got your content CMS-side, you can then pull that content into your SSG during the build process. All of those offerings I mentioned also have webhook support, so on publish of any content you can refire the build (to then pull down the new content). We are loving this setup. There are really very few downsides. Feel free to hit me up if you want to dig in more - m AT coldandgoji.com

by halomru 10y ago

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icebraining 10y ago

Is there any that is decent yet cheap? I've trying to find one for the small non-profit I help, but the open source implementations I found were at the toy stage (couldn't even embed a video) or Movable Type, which sounds great but at a price of $999, it's about $969 above what they can afford.

therealmarv 10y ago
Embedding video should be at that price level something like: Upload to Youtube, copy embed code into your YourPageGeneratorNameHere nearly all open source page generators I know support this. You maybe want to look into known very easy solutions like wordpress.com blogger etc. ?!
- icebraining 10y ago
  Having to mess directly with HTML is too risky. Maybe it could work if it had a really easy to use version control, but I've never seen that either. Wordpress.com is expensive if you want "advanced" features like editing the CSS(!). As for Blogger, I don't want to tie them to a proprietary solution.
  - therealmarv 10y ago
    Hugo Youtube shortcode: https://gohugo.io/extras/shortcodes/#youtube https://gohugo.io/extras/shortcodes/#youtube one of many Jekyll plugins: https://gist.github.com/joelverhagen/1805814 https://gist.github.com/joelverhagen/1805814
    - icebraining 10y ago
      Thanks for the suggestions, but it requires them to edit Markdown, which is a no-go. I need a GUI. Is there an Hugo or Jekyll frontend that provides a GUI and supports those tags? I couldn't find one.
      - therealmarv 10y ago
        You want a WYSIWYG editor which understands videos on the one side and a light blog posting engine on the other. I think something like this is not existing. Choose your devil: Go WordPress, go to a free service (like blogger) and put a custom domain in front, or accept that markdown can be used. A full featured blog editor which produces light static output is like a hybrid... it sounds to be heavy on the editor and transform part and light on the output... I think nobody is really targeting that on OSS. Update: Maybe take a closer look to OctoberCMS. It seems to go into your direction.
        icebraining 10y ago
        It does exists, it's called Movable Type, it's just expensive :) Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't seem like it generates static pages...? I'm keen on that because I really don't want to have to babysit the server and apply security fixes (I trust nginx to auto-update without breaking the site).
illuminea 10y ago
We're working on Strattic, which we are beta testing right now. It publishes CMSs as static sites. You can check it out here: https://strattic.com https://strattic.com.

kaishiro 10y ago

I actually disagree that Middleman isn't the right tool here - you're just relegating the content ownership to the wrong place. We run a number of multi user blogs in Middleman, but permissions and post ownership lives one level up on a cloud based CMS.

vault_dweller 10y ago
Could you, please, provide more details on this? I'm searching for the same solution. I'm planning a blogger-like static site generator. All media will be on external resources, and I want to keep maintenance price to a minimum (preferably zero) cost. Thanks.
- kaishiro 10y ago
  Sure - we use Contentful as our cloud based CMS offering. There are a few other players here - but the only ones I can speak to would be Prismic and Siteleaf, both of which are really solid. Once you've got your content CMS-side, you can then pull that content into your SSG during the build process. All of those offerings I mentioned also have webhook support, so on publish of any content you can refire the build (to then pull down the new content). We are loving this setup. There are really very few downsides. Feel free to hit me up if you want to dig in more - m AT coldandgoji.com