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Apparently there is: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160623/09170034795/emails-show-hillary-clintons-email-server-was-massive-security-headache-set-up-to-r

by 13years 10y ago

Apparently there is: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160623/09170034795/emails-show-hillary-clintons-email-server-was-massive-security-headache-set-up-to-route-around-foia-requests.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160623/09170034795/email...

lern_too_spel 10y ago
There is one email in that blog post that mentions FOIA requests, and there is no response to it from Clinton saying that it's why she won't use her state.gov email address. We already know why she used her own private email server — to use her Blackberry. This has been repeatedly established by the inquiries and the FBI investigation. We even have an email to Powell in 2009, well before any of the emails in that blog post, that shows her reason. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30324 https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30324
- 13years 10y ago
  Yet the state dept was willing to issue her an approved Blackberry which she declined. Evidence exists to support this was intentional to hide information. Evidence doesn't equal proven. Granted it is not proven, but saying there exists no evidence doesn't seem to be accurate.
  - lern_too_spel 10y ago
    > Yet the state dept was willing to issue her an approved Blackberry which she declined. That is exactly backwards. She requested a Blackberry-like device similar to the one given to Obama but was denied. https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/emails-show-nsa-rejected-hillary-clinton-request-for-secure-smartphone/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/emails-s... > Evidence exists to support this was intentional to hide information. No such evidence exists, which is why all inquiries and investigations came to the conclusion I stated above.
    - 13years 10y ago
      She was offered a compliant Blackberry by Mull. http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-so-far-about-hillarys-shady-blackberry-use/ http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-s... >No such evidence exists, which is why all inquiries and investigations came to the conclusion I stated above. That doesn't mean there was no evidence. It only suggests that evidence wasn't proven. You can not draw the conclusion there was none. The FBI also came to the conclusion that Clinton wasn't intelligent enough to understand confidential markings. Then the stunt the FBI pulled just before the election I would say the FBI has shown itself to be incompetent. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/7/fbis-comey-hillary-clinton-not-sophisticated-enoug/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/7/fbis-comey-hi...
      - lern_too_spel 10y ago
        > She was offered a compliant Blackberry by Mull. http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-s.. http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-s.... Mull was the Executive Secretary of the State Department at the time he sent that email (two years after the NSA had denied Clinton's request). He was in no position to overrule the NSA and make that offer. At no point during Clinton's tenure were Blackberry devices authorized to access state.gov email servers. He was very likely referring to http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-wanted-hillary-clinton-to-use-this-secure-windows-phone/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-wanted-hillary-clinton-to-u..., which was the only authorized device up to 2015 and was the device that the NSA offered (but not supported by State department infrastructure) http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/nsa-refused-clinton-a-secure-blackberry-like-obama-so-she-used-her-own/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/nsa-re.... > That doesn't mean there was no evidence. Then where is it? Aside: citing the Moonie Times and the Daily Caller projects know-nothingism. Here are the three top articles on the Daily Caller right now: 1. Charlie Sheen Offers America The Most Insane Ticket To Take Down Trump 2. TPM’s Josh Marshall Reduced To Tweeting Porno Link Of ‘Teasing, Licking’ ‘Angela & Strawberry’TPM’s Josh Marshall Reduced To Tweeting Porno Link Of ‘Teasing, Licking’ ‘Angela & Strawberry’ 3. ‘FK YOU. GO TO HELL’: Georgetown Prof Loses It On Muslim Trump Voter‘FK YOU. GO TO HELL’: Georgetown Prof Loses It On Muslim Trump Voter None of this is news.
- masonic 10y ago
  We already know why she used her own private email server — to use her Blackberry Her stated reason for the request was that she didn't want to have to carry multiple devices. Apparently, she (and her "expert" staff) couldn't figure out that you can access multiple accounts (and servers) from not only one device but even within one app.
  - lern_too_spel 10y ago
    You're being intentionally dense. The reason she would have to carry multiple devices is that she wanted to use her Blackberry, but the Blackberry was not allowed to access state.gov email. She would have continued to use her Blackberry to access her personal email, which would have meant she would need another device to access her state.gov email.
snowwrestler 10y ago
The State Dept IT tech was wrong about FOIA. Whether an email is subject to FOIA disclosure depends on the content and recipients, not the infrastructure. Clinton's personal emails would not have be FOIA-able even if it did go through State servers. There are also exceptions for some work emails. The question of what is subject to FOIA is complicated.

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lern_too_spel 10y ago

There is one email in that blog post that mentions FOIA requests, and there is no response to it from Clinton saying that it's why she won't use her state.gov email address. We already know why she used her own private email server — to use her Blackberry. This has been repeatedly established by the inquiries and the FBI investigation. We even have an email to Powell in 2009, well before any of the emails in that blog post, that shows her reason. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30324 https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/30324

13years 10y ago
Yet the state dept was willing to issue her an approved Blackberry which she declined. Evidence exists to support this was intentional to hide information. Evidence doesn't equal proven. Granted it is not proven, but saying there exists no evidence doesn't seem to be accurate.
- lern_too_spel 10y ago
  > Yet the state dept was willing to issue her an approved Blackberry which she declined. That is exactly backwards. She requested a Blackberry-like device similar to the one given to Obama but was denied. https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/emails-show-nsa-rejected-hillary-clinton-request-for-secure-smartphone/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/emails-s... > Evidence exists to support this was intentional to hide information. No such evidence exists, which is why all inquiries and investigations came to the conclusion I stated above.
  - 13years 10y ago
    She was offered a compliant Blackberry by Mull. http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-so-far-about-hillarys-shady-blackberry-use/ http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-s... >No such evidence exists, which is why all inquiries and investigations came to the conclusion I stated above. That doesn't mean there was no evidence. It only suggests that evidence wasn't proven. You can not draw the conclusion there was none. The FBI also came to the conclusion that Clinton wasn't intelligent enough to understand confidential markings. Then the stunt the FBI pulled just before the election I would say the FBI has shown itself to be incompetent. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/7/fbis-comey-hillary-clinton-not-sophisticated-enoug/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/7/fbis-comey-hi...
    - lern_too_spel 10y ago
      > She was offered a compliant Blackberry by Mull. http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-s.. http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/23/heres-everything-we-know-s.... Mull was the Executive Secretary of the State Department at the time he sent that email (two years after the NSA had denied Clinton's request). He was in no position to overrule the NSA and make that offer. At no point during Clinton's tenure were Blackberry devices authorized to access state.gov email servers. He was very likely referring to http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-wanted-hillary-clinton-to-use-this-secure-windows-phone/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-wanted-hillary-clinton-to-u..., which was the only authorized device up to 2015 and was the device that the NSA offered (but not supported by State department infrastructure) http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/nsa-refused-clinton-a-secure-blackberry-like-obama-so-she-used-her-own/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/nsa-re.... > That doesn't mean there was no evidence. Then where is it? Aside: citing the Moonie Times and the Daily Caller projects know-nothingism. Here are the three top articles on the Daily Caller right now: 1. Charlie Sheen Offers America The Most Insane Ticket To Take Down Trump 2. TPM’s Josh Marshall Reduced To Tweeting Porno Link Of ‘Teasing, Licking’ ‘Angela & Strawberry’TPM’s Josh Marshall Reduced To Tweeting Porno Link Of ‘Teasing, Licking’ ‘Angela & Strawberry’ 3. ‘FK YOU. GO TO HELL’: Georgetown Prof Loses It On Muslim Trump Voter‘FK YOU. GO TO HELL’: Georgetown Prof Loses It On Muslim Trump Voter None of this is news.
masonic 10y ago
We already know why she used her own private email server — to use her Blackberry Her stated reason for the request was that she didn't want to have to carry multiple devices. Apparently, she (and her "expert" staff) couldn't figure out that you can access multiple accounts (and servers) from not only one device but even within one app.
- lern_too_spel 10y ago
  You're being intentionally dense. The reason she would have to carry multiple devices is that she wanted to use her Blackberry, but the Blackberry was not allowed to access state.gov email. She would have continued to use her Blackberry to access her personal email, which would have meant she would need another device to access her state.gov email.

snowwrestler 10y ago

The State Dept IT tech was wrong about FOIA. Whether an email is subject to FOIA disclosure depends on the content and recipients, not the infrastructure. Clinton's personal emails would not have be FOIA-able even if it did go through State servers. There are also exceptions for some work emails. The question of what is subject to FOIA is complicated.