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> Are you referring to their donation to the Clinton Foundation? That wasn't proven, it was revealed by the Foundation. All donations have been made public. Hu

> Are you referring to their donation to the Clinton Foundation? That wasn't proven, it was revealed by the Foundation. All donations have been made public. Huh? It's been widely reported that the Saudi government has made large donations to the Clinton Foundation. See: [1] http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/26/american-crossroads/conservative-group-claims-hillary-clintons-foundat/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/... [2] http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinto...

woofyman 10y ago
And your point is? We know about those donations because the foundation disclosed those donations as described by your first link. So I stand by my statement that it wasn't "proven". That implies that it took an investigation to reveal.
cmurf 10y ago
Large donations, whether for a charity or otherwise, are far less of a problem of influence than on-going unknown liabilities and assets ultimately controlled by foreign governments. If you want to directly give any amount of money directly to Trump not subject to any kind of campaign donation limitations, just buy a hotel room for some duration. If you want someone in U.S. custody released, take the principle operating officers of the president's hotels into custody without trial. And I also wonder whether Trump owned/named buildings are possible targets in the same way American embassies can be targets; and then who pays for the ensuing security evaluations, monitoring, and reinforcement of all of those buildings. Is an attack on any of those buildings an attack on merely the Trump organization, or is it an attack on the president, and indirectly on the U.S.? The differences in liability and unknowns between the incoming president and all previous presidents is qualitatively extremely different, and likely in unpredictable ways.

woofyman 10y ago

And your point is? We know about those donations because the foundation disclosed those donations as described by your first link. So I stand by my statement that it wasn't "proven". That implies that it took an investigation to reveal.

cmurf 10y ago

Large donations, whether for a charity or otherwise, are far less of a problem of influence than on-going unknown liabilities and assets ultimately controlled by foreign governments. If you want to directly give any amount of money directly to Trump not subject to any kind of campaign donation limitations, just buy a hotel room for some duration. If you want someone in U.S. custody released, take the principle operating officers of the president's hotels into custody without trial. And I also wonder whether Trump owned/named buildings are possible targets in the same way American embassies can be targets; and then who pays for the ensuing security evaluations, monitoring, and reinforcement of all of those buildings. Is an attack on any of those buildings an attack on merely the Trump organization, or is it an attack on the president, and indirectly on the U.S.? The differences in liability and unknowns between the incoming president and all previous presidents is qualitatively extremely different, and likely in unpredictable ways.