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Are you referring to their donation to the Clinton Foundation? That wasn't proven, it was revealed by the Foundation. All donations have been made public. If T

Are you referring to their donation to the Clinton Foundation? That wasn't proven, it was revealed by the Foundation. All donations have been made public. If Trump wants to end speculation, just release his tax returns.

ithinkinstereo 10y ago
> Are you referring to their donation to the Clinton Foundation? That wasn't proven, it was revealed by the Foundation. All donations have been made public. Huh? It's been widely reported that the Saudi government has made large donations to the Clinton Foundation. See: [1] http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/26/american-crossroads/conservative-group-claims-hillary-clintons-foundat/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/... [2] http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinto...
- woofyman 10y ago
  And your point is? We know about those donations because the foundation disclosed those donations as described by your first link. So I stand by my statement that it wasn't "proven". That implies that it took an investigation to reveal.
- cmurf 10y ago
  Large donations, whether for a charity or otherwise, are far less of a problem of influence than on-going unknown liabilities and assets ultimately controlled by foreign governments. If you want to directly give any amount of money directly to Trump not subject to any kind of campaign donation limitations, just buy a hotel room for some duration. If you want someone in U.S. custody released, take the principle operating officers of the president's hotels into custody without trial. And I also wonder whether Trump owned/named buildings are possible targets in the same way American embassies can be targets; and then who pays for the ensuing security evaluations, monitoring, and reinforcement of all of those buildings. Is an attack on any of those buildings an attack on merely the Trump organization, or is it an attack on the president, and indirectly on the U.S.? The differences in liability and unknowns between the incoming president and all previous presidents is qualitatively extremely different, and likely in unpredictable ways.
xrd 10y ago
And Trump bragged about donating to the Clintons in exchange for favor. Not sure what Trump thinks that makes him, above the fray? Smarter than everyone else? Not the way I'd characterize it.
drawnwren 10y ago
Isn't it a foregone conclusion that he will now that he's been elected?
- mcintyre1994 10y ago
  Why would he do that? I think it's pretty much guaranteed he won't at this point.
  - drawnwren 10y ago
    I was under the impression that it is legally required of presidents but not candidates. edit: It looks like it's not a legal requirement, just a tradition. I suppose time will tell.
- codecamper 10y ago
  He wasn't elected.

ithinkinstereo 10y ago

> Are you referring to their donation to the Clinton Foundation? That wasn't proven, it was revealed by the Foundation. All donations have been made public. Huh? It's been widely reported that the Saudi government has made large donations to the Clinton Foundation. See: [1] http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/26/american-crossroads/conservative-group-claims-hillary-clintons-foundat/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/feb/... [2] http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinto...

woofyman 10y ago
And your point is? We know about those donations because the foundation disclosed those donations as described by your first link. So I stand by my statement that it wasn't "proven". That implies that it took an investigation to reveal.
cmurf 10y ago
Large donations, whether for a charity or otherwise, are far less of a problem of influence than on-going unknown liabilities and assets ultimately controlled by foreign governments. If you want to directly give any amount of money directly to Trump not subject to any kind of campaign donation limitations, just buy a hotel room for some duration. If you want someone in U.S. custody released, take the principle operating officers of the president's hotels into custody without trial. And I also wonder whether Trump owned/named buildings are possible targets in the same way American embassies can be targets; and then who pays for the ensuing security evaluations, monitoring, and reinforcement of all of those buildings. Is an attack on any of those buildings an attack on merely the Trump organization, or is it an attack on the president, and indirectly on the U.S.? The differences in liability and unknowns between the incoming president and all previous presidents is qualitatively extremely different, and likely in unpredictable ways.

xrd 10y ago

And Trump bragged about donating to the Clintons in exchange for favor. Not sure what Trump thinks that makes him, above the fray? Smarter than everyone else? Not the way I'd characterize it.

drawnwren 10y ago

Isn't it a foregone conclusion that he will now that he's been elected?

mcintyre1994 10y ago
Why would he do that? I think it's pretty much guaranteed he won't at this point.
- drawnwren 10y ago
  I was under the impression that it is legally required of presidents but not candidates. edit: It looks like it's not a legal requirement, just a tradition. I suppose time will tell.
codecamper 10y ago
He wasn't elected.