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15 of the 19 attackers on 9/11 were Saudi. The rest were from UAE (2), Egypt, and Lebanon. The Saudis are largely responsible for the spread of Wahhabism, whic

15 of the 19 attackers on 9/11 were Saudi. The rest were from UAE (2), Egypt, and Lebanon. The Saudis are largely responsible for the spread of Wahhabism, which in turn has fueled extremist islamic ideology. Both the left and the right have ties to KSA. And they've been major donors to both parties, but especially the democrats. Sad that the MSM willfully ignores this topic.

hyggyhhfdd 10y ago
And the usa buys oil from them and yet they have a cuban embargo. It's a conspiracy I tell you. I think things are a bit more complicated then your smear campaign. Go and join your brothers at breitbart.
philwelch 10y ago
Bin Laden and his crew were Saudi dissidents who were trying to overthrow the Saudi government. Their grievance with us was that we are allied to/stationed troops within/prop up the kingdom they were trying to overthrow. Blaming "the Saudis" for 9/11 is like blaming the Queen for IRA bombings.
sangnoir 10y ago
I think geopolitics gets in the way: Saudi Arabia is an ally to the United States- not the GOP or the Democrats. This arrangement is probably seen as best for American Interests, at least by several administrations regardless of party - I have read theories about the petro-dollar but I'm not familiar enough with Economics to weigh in. Not too long ago, the Republicans pushed a law allowing families of 9/11 victims to sue the KSA. Obama vetoed the bill and the GOP overrode the veto. Not long afterwards, the GOP whip[1] was regretting the law and blaming Obama for not pushing back enough(!). Now, I don't think there's a conspiracy going on, it's just realpolitik/ nation-state equivalent of having a friend who is a dick but lets you play with his nice toys. 1. Might have been "senate majority leader" I'm on mobile and haven't looked it up the correct title. Edit: I am assuming that the Saudi government wasn't involved in 9/11 and that it was the actions of religious extremists. Publicly blaming the Saudi government might not be the most prudent thing to do, just as Uganda shouldn't blame the US government for the actions of American Christian evangelicals stoking homophobia in Uganda. I know it's comparing Apples to ghost pepper
- 3131s 10y ago
  > I am assuming that the Saudi government wasn't involved in 9/11 and that it was the actions of religious extremists. You should read about Bandar bin Sultan, AKA "Bandar Bush", Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States for 20+ years [1]. Zacarias Moussaoui stated under oath that Bandar bin Sultan and the Saudi government financed 9/11, and the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 Comission Report detail how two of the 9/11 hijackers received $130,000 in payment from Bandar's checking account. His nickname comes from his close affiliation with the Bush family. Bob Woodward claims that W. Bush told Bandar about the invasion of Iraq before Colin Powell. It is very likely that the Saudi government was involved in 9/11, and it is worth investigating whether Bush and / or Cheney had foreknowledge of the attacks [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger

hyggyhhfdd 10y ago

And the usa buys oil from them and yet they have a cuban embargo. It's a conspiracy I tell you. I think things are a bit more complicated then your smear campaign. Go and join your brothers at breitbart.

philwelch 10y ago

Bin Laden and his crew were Saudi dissidents who were trying to overthrow the Saudi government. Their grievance with us was that we are allied to/stationed troops within/prop up the kingdom they were trying to overthrow. Blaming "the Saudis" for 9/11 is like blaming the Queen for IRA bombings.

sangnoir 10y ago

I think geopolitics gets in the way: Saudi Arabia is an ally to the United States- not the GOP or the Democrats. This arrangement is probably seen as best for American Interests, at least by several administrations regardless of party - I have read theories about the petro-dollar but I'm not familiar enough with Economics to weigh in. Not too long ago, the Republicans pushed a law allowing families of 9/11 victims to sue the KSA. Obama vetoed the bill and the GOP overrode the veto. Not long afterwards, the GOP whip[1] was regretting the law and blaming Obama for not pushing back enough(!). Now, I don't think there's a conspiracy going on, it's just realpolitik/ nation-state equivalent of having a friend who is a dick but lets you play with his nice toys. 1. Might have been "senate majority leader" I'm on mobile and haven't looked it up the correct title. Edit: I am assuming that the Saudi government wasn't involved in 9/11 and that it was the actions of religious extremists. Publicly blaming the Saudi government might not be the most prudent thing to do, just as Uganda shouldn't blame the US government for the actions of American Christian evangelicals stoking homophobia in Uganda. I know it's comparing Apples to ghost pepper

3131s 10y ago
> I am assuming that the Saudi government wasn't involved in 9/11 and that it was the actions of religious extremists. You should read about Bandar bin Sultan, AKA "Bandar Bush", Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States for 20+ years [1]. Zacarias Moussaoui stated under oath that Bandar bin Sultan and the Saudi government financed 9/11, and the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 Comission Report detail how two of the 9/11 hijackers received $130,000 in payment from Bandar's checking account. His nickname comes from his close affiliation with the Bush family. Bob Woodward claims that W. Bush told Bandar about the invasion of Iraq before Colin Powell. It is very likely that the Saudi government was involved in 9/11, and it is worth investigating whether Bush and / or Cheney had foreknowledge of the attacks [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger