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> Same as Linux ... By the time the community effort got it together, most of the effort was obsolete Care to explain, how all the effort in Linux was obsolute

by sandee 16y ago

> Same as Linux ... By the time the community effort got it together, most of the effort was obsolete Care to explain, how all the effort in Linux was obsolute ? (And i am on Ubuntu Linux typing this reply)

derefr 16y ago
I think he meant "most of the effort that went into a good userland GUI experience, from FreeDesktop et al" is wasted when your display is 100% filled by an HTML frame, ala ChromeOS. The Linux kernel is certainly not a waste.
- davidw 16y ago
  It's a bit facile to compare something that works and has a few flaws, but is used by a great deal of people, with something that still isn't out of beta and isn't really used by anyone.
  - Detrus 16y ago
    You mean desktop linux vs the web? Or even Linux vs iPhone OS?
    - davidw 16y ago
      No, I mean that apples are far superior to potatoes.
- Detrus 16y ago
  Yes Ubuntu isn't going anywhere. App developers want one and only one OS and Ubuntu doesn't make life easier by being free. As far as new technologies, I imagine internet protocols and bandwidth in 2018 will make it possible to share massive databases of information. New parallel chips will enable anyone to analyze massive databases of information, a whole economy of data sharing could emerge. New possibilities in online education, government, healthcare will all depend on the availability of currently private data. By 2030 we will be living in "The Matrix" where AIs will learn from us by monitoring every single thought we have. It's an important perspective. Facebook is just a tiny step, just like Windows was. They don't need to be perfect. Most importantly they should not be imitated or duplicated with a "free and uber-private" label. They need to be rethought with the long term perspective in mind. What's the point of privacy? Do people care about distant data miners going through their lives or do they just want to avoid being fired or ridiculed by those close to them? And if some data miners gain magic knowledge on how to manipulate the masses, don't get paranoid. It's likely government will be redesigned around the new technology by then.

by sandee 16y ago

derefr 16y ago

I think he meant "most of the effort that went into a good userland GUI experience, from FreeDesktop et al" is wasted when your display is 100% filled by an HTML frame, ala ChromeOS. The Linux kernel is certainly not a waste.

davidw 16y ago
It's a bit facile to compare something that works and has a few flaws, but is used by a great deal of people, with something that still isn't out of beta and isn't really used by anyone.
- Detrus 16y ago
  You mean desktop linux vs the web? Or even Linux vs iPhone OS?
  - davidw 16y ago
    No, I mean that apples are far superior to potatoes.
Detrus 16y ago
Yes Ubuntu isn't going anywhere. App developers want one and only one OS and Ubuntu doesn't make life easier by being free. As far as new technologies, I imagine internet protocols and bandwidth in 2018 will make it possible to share massive databases of information. New parallel chips will enable anyone to analyze massive databases of information, a whole economy of data sharing could emerge. New possibilities in online education, government, healthcare will all depend on the availability of currently private data. By 2030 we will be living in "The Matrix" where AIs will learn from us by monitoring every single thought we have. It's an important perspective. Facebook is just a tiny step, just like Windows was. They don't need to be perfect. Most importantly they should not be imitated or duplicated with a "free and uber-private" label. They need to be rethought with the long term perspective in mind. What's the point of privacy? Do people care about distant data miners going through their lives or do they just want to avoid being fired or ridiculed by those close to them? And if some data miners gain magic knowledge on how to manipulate the masses, don't get paranoid. It's likely government will be redesigned around the new technology by then.