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Roger was a friend of mine though we didn't start that way. I was a young annoying engineer at Sun, I worked upstairs in building 5, Roger worked downstairs.

Roger was a friend of mine though we didn't start that way. I was a young annoying engineer at Sun, I worked upstairs in building 5, Roger worked downstairs. I met him because I had a /proc question. Being the sort of jerk that I was at the time, I just walked in and sat on the edge of his desk. I had never met him before. He ignored me. For about 5 minutes, he was coding and he didn't even look up. Finally, again without looking up, he said "what do you want?" "I've got a question about /proc". "And why should I answer that?" "Because I'm going sit on your desk and belch and fart until you do". He burst into laughter and said something like "OK, you win". We're friends from that time forward. I've shared some fun times with Roger, we had a nerds thanksgiving where a handful of Sun people who didn't have girlfriends all got together and had a great time. I'll miss him, he was a great guy. RIP Roger. P.S. All the comments about his protection of all things Unix are spot on. He was not a Linux fan, that's putting it mildly.

ChuckMcM 10y ago
You could pull that off :-) not everyone could. At the time of the great Network Division disaster (also known as a Garlick's Folly) I was talking to Roger at a beer bust and he assured me that even though I was going to be "network guy" now, he was ok with me changing the kernel when I needed to. It really made me feel great.
- luckydude 10y ago
  Hey Chuck, the weird thing was I wasn't trying to pull anything off. I walked into his office and something about just told me to go that way. I'd say it was more him than me, he had a persona that made that the right approach. I just went with it. Don't get me started about Garlick (or Kannegard), oy. Having Roger say you have his blessing the wack the kernel is a pretty big deal, he was very protective of it.
bcantrill 10y ago
Roger himself loved to tell that story -- though he never included the belching; it was merely you saying "I'm going to stay here and fart in your office until you answer my question." He told it with such frequency and affection that it was clear you had won his total admiration in that moment -- and his telling was such an important part of our oral tradition that for many (myself included), Roger's telling of this story was how we knew of you long after your departure from Sun. Just because you have me reminiscing about Roger, I'll add (another) one of my own to the pile: before joining Sun in 1996, I had gone to East Africa, where I had purchased a carving of a crocodile -- and have had it sitting on my desk ever since. Roger loved to pick up the crocodile by the tale (it's about 18" long) and thrust the snout into my chest when making an emphatic point -- or demanding that I approve his RTI. I still think of Roger whenever I pick it up, though I have never been able to brandish it as eloquently. RIP raf!
- luckydude 10y ago
  Wow, I didn't know he told that story, that's awesome. Makes sense though, we shared a similar sense of humor (I suspect he would agree with my feeling that all dudes are really 15 year old boys no matter what age they are. All this adult stuff, yeah, we can do it, but we're faking it. I'm fond of saying I'll fake being an adult for 20 minutes for free. You want more than 20 minutes? Pay me). raf@sunraf if I recall correctly. He is also a big part of the reason that distributed source management exists, he was a big nselite user (turned into Teamware which inspired BitKeeper, which inspired Git, Darcs, Arch, Bazaar and who knows what else).

ChuckMcM 10y ago

You could pull that off :-) not everyone could. At the time of the great Network Division disaster (also known as a Garlick's Folly) I was talking to Roger at a beer bust and he assured me that even though I was going to be "network guy" now, he was ok with me changing the kernel when I needed to. It really made me feel great.

luckydude 10y ago
Hey Chuck, the weird thing was I wasn't trying to pull anything off. I walked into his office and something about just told me to go that way. I'd say it was more him than me, he had a persona that made that the right approach. I just went with it. Don't get me started about Garlick (or Kannegard), oy. Having Roger say you have his blessing the wack the kernel is a pretty big deal, he was very protective of it.

bcantrill 10y ago

Roger himself loved to tell that story -- though he never included the belching; it was merely you saying "I'm going to stay here and fart in your office until you answer my question." He told it with such frequency and affection that it was clear you had won his total admiration in that moment -- and his telling was such an important part of our oral tradition that for many (myself included), Roger's telling of this story was how we knew of you long after your departure from Sun. Just because you have me reminiscing about Roger, I'll add (another) one of my own to the pile: before joining Sun in 1996, I had gone to East Africa, where I had purchased a carving of a crocodile -- and have had it sitting on my desk ever since. Roger loved to pick up the crocodile by the tale (it's about 18" long) and thrust the snout into my chest when making an emphatic point -- or demanding that I approve his RTI. I still think of Roger whenever I pick it up, though I have never been able to brandish it as eloquently. RIP raf!

luckydude 10y ago
Wow, I didn't know he told that story, that's awesome. Makes sense though, we shared a similar sense of humor (I suspect he would agree with my feeling that all dudes are really 15 year old boys no matter what age they are. All this adult stuff, yeah, we can do it, but we're faking it. I'm fond of saying I'll fake being an adult for 20 minutes for free. You want more than 20 minutes? Pay me). raf@sunraf if I recall correctly. He is also a big part of the reason that distributed source management exists, he was a big nselite user (turned into Teamware which inspired BitKeeper, which inspired Git, Darcs, Arch, Bazaar and who knows what else).