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Fake news isn't a new phenomenon, in the 1870s a satrical/comedic article in a New Zealand newspaper about an impending Russian invasion led to such wide spread
by disordinary 10y ago
Fake news isn't a new phenomenon, in the 1870s a satrical/comedic article in a New Zealand newspaper about an impending Russian invasion led to such wide spread hysteria that the colonial government almost bankrupted itself. To sate the public it had to invest heavily in naval vessels and build 17 forts to fight off the (non existent) Russian menace.
It's a wee bit hypocritical for the US to get so upset about these things though, considering all the elections that the CIA have been involved in, not to mention the stuff that Snowden revealed (like tapping the German Chancellors phone). Everyone knows that whatever espionage Russia is doing to the US the US is doing back in kind. All the powers will be hacking each other.
- matt_wulfeck 10y agoIt makes us look hypocritical. We are hypocritical. Who is the current administration trying to fool? The world or its citizens? The petty finger pointing needs to stop. The low sophistication of the DNC hack just reinforces this. Besides, if you don't want to be embarrassed then don't do embarrassing things and then sulk when you're exposed.
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- fixermark 10y agoThe "Eric Schmidt Position."
- _audakel 10y ago> don't do embarrassing things and then sulk when you're exposed. Thissss. I'm so sick and tired of the hypocrisy. If there was a "Chinese snowden" who leaked that China was doing the same stuff we where it would start a war. If Russia or China started building military bases through out the world for "democracy" we would loose our shit. Why are we surprised when other world powers follow our example and try to hack the shit out anything they can get their hands on. Can't we be grown ups about this? It's a total double stAndard. We mess with so many elections around the world, and cry foul when someone does it to us. Don't get me wrong, I understand why we do it, and sometimes agree with it. I feel like it stems from almost a prehistoric primitive tribal instinct - I live if my tribe lives, and to do that we have to control the other tribes. By all means continue to dominate other countries, but PLEASE STOP USING THE MORAL SUPERIORITY CARD.
- pg314 10y ago> Besides, if you don't want to be embarrassed then don't do embarrassing things and then sulk when you're exposed. I don't think that is a very good argument. If you were to look through the email of most middle-sized organisations you would be able to find embarrassing things.
- 13years 10y agoIt was far beyond embarrassing, it was at minimum unethical. And if we believe that such exists elsewhere, then we should be calling for more exposure of such vs ignoring it as operating as normal.
- matt_wulfeck 10y agoIf you deal honestly with people then you don't need to be embarrassed when you're exposed.
- finid 10y agoYou didn't have to go all the way back to the 1870s for a good example. Russian subs have been seen in some Swedish bedrooms the early-mid part of this year. Those Ruskies are capable of anything, you know.
- mlvljr 10y agoI wish we were :)
- disordinary 10y agoYep, the point I was trying to make is that there's been fake news probably since the invent of news. It's interesting that it's always the Russians though :)
- gipp 10y ago"Hypocrisy" is a tough concept to apply to whole nations, I'd say. I suspect most of the people upset about the Russian angle aren't exactly supporters of CIA election meddling either.