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WaPo, Nytimes, CNN, all part of the US propaganda machine. The anti-Russia hysteria is getting ridiculous, and the more the media drum it up, the less people b

• IBM 10y ago
  Ironically the Russians have broken into the homes of US diplomats in Moscow and have pooped in them (among other things like killing one of their dogs). >At a recent meeting of U.S. ambassadors from Russia and Europe in Washington, U.S. ambassadors to several European countries complained that Russian intelligence officials were constantly perpetrating acts of harassment against their diplomatic staff that ranged from the weird to the downright scary. Some of the intimidation has been routine: following diplomats or their family members, showing up at their social events uninvited or paying reporters to write negative stories about them. But many of the recent acts of intimidation by Russian security services have crossed the line into apparent criminality. In a series of secret memos sent back to Washington, described to me by several current and former U.S. officials who have written or read them, diplomats reported that Russian intruders had broken into their homes late at night, only to rearrange the furniture or turn on all the lights and televisions, and then leave. One diplomat reported that an intruder had defecated on his living room carpet. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/russia-is-harassing-us-diplomats-all-over-europe/2016/06/26/968d1a5a-3bdf-11e6-84e8-1580c7db5275_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/russ...
  • Mikeb85 10y ago
    Forgive me for being sceptical, considering this entire thread is about WaPo publishing false stories, and you linking to one of their publications...
    • pja 10y ago
      This kind of behaviour by the Russian security services has been well documented for decades. It’s hardly out of keeping with their past.
    • IBM 10y ago
      Journalists get stories wrong all the time, even journalists from respected publications.
    • jimnotgym 10y ago
      And closing down a school for diplomats kids...except it appears that didn't happen either. I am finding it very hard to believe any of the Russia vs US news
    • noinsight 10y ago
      Here's an article [1] in English from Finland (not sure if the paywall is active for foreigners) by the largest newspaper in the country about an activist who has been harrassed for 11 years by the FSB for operating a pro-Chechen website in the past. They've left dead birds inside his home etc. Pictures included. Russia officially petitioned the UN Security Council to add the guy to the official UN "al-Qaeda" terrorist list. [1] http://www.hs.fi/sunnuntai/art-2000002847124.html http://www.hs.fi/sunnuntai/art-2000002847124.html
  • caseysoftware 10y ago
    Ongoing harassment is a regular practice among spy agencies. The underlying message is "we know who you are" and sometimes a threat, sometimes to undermine. The agents and officers they actually care about, they (and we) rarely touch. It's better if they think their cover is intact.
    • RivieraKid 10y ago
      It's harassment of American diplomats, even outside of Russia. I find that low and disgusting.
      • BickNowstrom 10y ago
        Spies travel under the guise of diplomats. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DC10fyQgNqo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DC10fyQgNqo
      • zigzigzag 10y ago
        "diplomat" is another way of saying spy, very often. The USA and other countries have long traditions of sending spies under diplomatic cover
  • walshemj 10y ago
    mm so why not "lend" your apartment to some "computer programmers who nudge nudge work at fort bragg for a boys weekend on the piss or a run a shore. Yes Mr inspector the poor lads though they where being burglarised and as "drink had been taken" they got a bit boisterous
• conception 10y ago
  Don't forget Fox, WSJ and the NY Post to add to the propaganda machine. Just from the other side.
  • randyrand 10y ago
    WSJ actually seems to have a lot of journalistic integrity imo. Ive never seen issues with them. Their opinion pieces can have a bit more "free thinking", definitely, but they are always marked as opinion.
    • snowwrestler 10y ago
      They just ran an article calling Obama's decision to give a farewell address unusual, even though in reality every single president going back to Washington has given a farewell address.
      • greglindahl 10y ago
        I see: > Corrections & Amplifications: > Departing presidents in recent years have given farewell addresses in the final weeks of their terms.
  • Velchronus 10y ago
    I disagree on WSJ. They do a good job of keeping the opinion confined to the editorial section... for the most part.
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• cloakandswagger 10y ago
  That's the biggest threat here. The public is going to become desensitized to the histrionic Russian conspiracy news, and a significant portion of them will start dismissing MSM messaging about Russia outright. I can imagine Russia actually doing something heinous and it making zero waves, all because of the media who cried wolf.
  • tmuir 10y ago
    You can prove this concept with mathematics. 1. Select an arbitrary NFL game being played in the first week of season. 2. Email a sufficiently large ( > 131,072) group of people, telling half of them that Team A will win. Tell the other half people that team B will win. 3. The game will necessarily yield a loser. (To account for ties, tell your audience team N will not lose, instead of will win) 4. The emailed people who received the correct prediction become the remaining pool, and those that received the incorrect prediction are no longer involved in this exercise. 5. Repeat steps 1-4 for the first 16 of the 17 weeks of the NFL season, always retaining the half of the pool who received the correct prediction. 6. After the 16th game, since you started with a sufficiently large pool, you will have sent the correct predictions for all 16 games to a nonzero number of people. 7. This nonzero number of people, if they have paid attention, will be forced to believe that you can predict the winner of the 17th game, and will be willing to give you ridiculous amounts of money to obtain that 17th prediction. In their eyes, you can predict the future, but all you did was apply successive approximation, which is how many analog to digital converters work. The same tactic works in reverse, you simply need to keep the people paying attention to the incorrect predictions long enough. I'll leave the most recent example of this phenomenon as an exercise to the reader.
  • metaobject 10y ago
    The GOP has been claiming Obama is a Kenyan Muslim for -8 years (including Trump's harrassment re: his birth certificate), and a recent poll [1] showed that 41% of republicans still believe he wasn't born in the US. So, it would appear that the US population has quite an appetite for these stories. [1] http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-poll-shows-that-41-of-republicans-still-dont-think-obama-was-born-in-the-u-s/ http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-poll-shows-that-41-of-rep...