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I agree not rigged, but giving Hillary debate questions in advance comes pretty close. In my opinion, the DNC emails and the Trump "grab 'em" tapes are simila

by dilap 10y ago

I agree not rigged, but giving Hillary debate questions in advance comes pretty close. In my opinion, the DNC emails and the Trump "grab 'em" tapes are similar -- you can argue that it's private material that should've stayed that way, but you can't argue that the material didn't reveal helpful truths about the candidates. Finally, a recent poll found 50% of Democrats think that Russia tampered with the vote tallies in the election. This is insane, and the direct result of mainstream media irresponsibly using the phrase "hacked the election" to refer to the (alleged) hacking of DNC emails by Russia. Fake news.

hackinthebochs 10y ago
I guess you conveniently forget where Sanders said his emails would have the same sorts of messages from Donna? http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303868-sanders-aide-defends-donna-brazile-after-leaked-emails http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/30386... >"If Bernie Sanders had been the nominee of the party and the Russians hacked my emails instead of John [Podesta]’s, we'd be reading all these notes between Donna and I and they'd say Donna was cozying up to the Bernie campaign. This is taken out of context. I found her to be a fair arbiter, I think she did a good and honest job." Turns out they weren't even debate questions: http://www.nbcnews.com/card/top-sanders-aide-defends-dnc-chair-wikileaks-controversy-n664831 http://www.nbcnews.com/card/top-sanders-aide-defends-dnc-cha...
- dilap 10y ago
  Both your statements are untrue. Sanders didn't say that. (Read your link. It's an aid running interference.) Donna did leak debate questions. Here's an email from Donna Brazile. The subject is "From time to time I get the questions in advance". https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43962 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43962 The email contains the exact text of the question submitted to a CNN producer in advance of the town-hall by a moderator; it is very similar to the final question that ended up being asked. http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/roland-martin-cnn-email-donna-brazile-wikileaks-229673 http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/roland-martin...
  - hackinthebochs 10y ago
    >Sanders didn't say that. (Read your link. It's an aid running interference.) Aide representing Sanders. Distinction not relevant at all. >town-hall by a moderator The real question is whether Sanders' camp got the same email. The statements made by his aide suggests they did.
bobwaycott 10y ago
Agreed on the last part. I saw that poll, as well, and couldn't help but shake my head. There's a serious problem with not just the news, but the way people interpret the words used on the news in their own ways, and then spread that interpretation outward without there being any significant checks on the spin getting out of control.

by dilap 10y ago

hackinthebochs 10y ago

I guess you conveniently forget where Sanders said his emails would have the same sorts of messages from Donna? http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303868-sanders-aide-defends-donna-brazile-after-leaked-emails http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/30386... >"If Bernie Sanders had been the nominee of the party and the Russians hacked my emails instead of John [Podesta]’s, we'd be reading all these notes between Donna and I and they'd say Donna was cozying up to the Bernie campaign. This is taken out of context. I found her to be a fair arbiter, I think she did a good and honest job." Turns out they weren't even debate questions: http://www.nbcnews.com/card/top-sanders-aide-defends-dnc-chair-wikileaks-controversy-n664831 http://www.nbcnews.com/card/top-sanders-aide-defends-dnc-cha...

dilap 10y ago
Both your statements are untrue. Sanders didn't say that. (Read your link. It's an aid running interference.) Donna did leak debate questions. Here's an email from Donna Brazile. The subject is "From time to time I get the questions in advance". https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43962 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43962 The email contains the exact text of the question submitted to a CNN producer in advance of the town-hall by a moderator; it is very similar to the final question that ended up being asked. http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/roland-martin-cnn-email-donna-brazile-wikileaks-229673 http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/roland-martin...
- hackinthebochs 10y ago
  >Sanders didn't say that. (Read your link. It's an aid running interference.) Aide representing Sanders. Distinction not relevant at all. >town-hall by a moderator The real question is whether Sanders' camp got the same email. The statements made by his aide suggests they did.

bobwaycott 10y ago

Agreed on the last part. I saw that poll, as well, and couldn't help but shake my head. There's a serious problem with not just the news, but the way people interpret the words used on the news in their own ways, and then spread that interpretation outward without there being any significant checks on the spin getting out of control.