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> Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press. ThinkPad X1 Carbon: Starting at 2.6 lbs (1209 g) MacBook Pro 13: Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)

by jsz0 10y ago

josteink 10y ago
I think the more important part is where OP implied anything not made of metal was deemed unreliable. I think that's a pretty stone-age point of view given modern material technology.
- jolux 10y ago
  People say this, and I really really want to like the ThinkPads and in particular the X1 Carbon because it's black and badass but it can't possibly be made out of carbon fiber for how flimsy it feels. Granted perhaps it's more durable than it seems but MacBooks are so solid and dense and rigid by comparison. One of my friends has dropped his Air out of his lofted dorm bed numerous times and you couldn't even tell by looking at it, it's totally fine. One of my other friends has a ThinkPad Yoga and the fancy hinge was fucked within two weeks of purchase.
  - svennek 10y ago
    I did the yoga thing with a Macbook Air and it's hinges was fucked instantly :) My X1 yoga has no trouble what-so-ever and I dropped it a few feet.. (and it rattles along unprotected in a leather bag every day)...
    - jolux 10y ago
      Well the MacBook Air is pretty obviously not designed to do that. The ThinkPad hinges are different on either side, and they came out of alignment and then jammed and broke. You may have dropped it a few feet, but I drop my MacBook Pro all the time because I'm a terrible person. This dorm-bed fall has happened several times now too. The durability is simply off the charts, and I can't say the same about ThinkPads. They just feel so flimsy, everything bends or flexes on them.
      - svennek 10y ago
        Well obviously (or maybe not) it was a joke. In all seriousness four comments: - I bend my X1 fully around all the time, not problem with the hinges - all X1's I have ever seen have 3-year ON-SITE warranty, your friend should call support and get it fixed next business day (where s/he is). - Strength and "flexiness" are not related, often materials are allowed to flex to keep them from breaking. The X1s are made of carbon fibre and have sufficient strength even if our ape-brains prefer something that does not flex... - and even if not, there is always next-day onsite warranty (mine is upgrade to 5 years - not having the option of onsite for Macs is alone a disqualifying trait for me)
tikhonj 10y ago
It's worth noting that thanks to a clever configuration, the X1's 14" screen and keyboard are a bit bigger than the MacBook—enough so that it feels significantly more roomy while only being a little bit bigger. (It barely fits into my bag designed for 13" laptops—but it fits!)
awqrre 10y ago
that was a unit mess... ThinkPad X1 Carbon: 2.51 lbs (1.14 kg) MacBook Pro 13 ......: 3.02 lbs (1.37 kg) or about 17% lighter

> Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press. ThinkPad X1 Carbon: Starting at 2.6 lbs (1209 g) MacBook Pro 13: Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)

by jsz0 10y ago

> Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press. ThinkPad X1 Carbon: Starting at 2.6 lbs (1209 g) MacBook Pro 13: Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)

josteink 10y ago

I think the more important part is where OP implied anything not made of metal was deemed unreliable. I think that's a pretty stone-age point of view given modern material technology.

jolux 10y ago
People say this, and I really really want to like the ThinkPads and in particular the X1 Carbon because it's black and badass but it can't possibly be made out of carbon fiber for how flimsy it feels. Granted perhaps it's more durable than it seems but MacBooks are so solid and dense and rigid by comparison. One of my friends has dropped his Air out of his lofted dorm bed numerous times and you couldn't even tell by looking at it, it's totally fine. One of my other friends has a ThinkPad Yoga and the fancy hinge was fucked within two weeks of purchase.
- svennek 10y ago
  I did the yoga thing with a Macbook Air and it's hinges was fucked instantly :) My X1 yoga has no trouble what-so-ever and I dropped it a few feet.. (and it rattles along unprotected in a leather bag every day)...
  - jolux 10y ago
    Well the MacBook Air is pretty obviously not designed to do that. The ThinkPad hinges are different on either side, and they came out of alignment and then jammed and broke. You may have dropped it a few feet, but I drop my MacBook Pro all the time because I'm a terrible person. This dorm-bed fall has happened several times now too. The durability is simply off the charts, and I can't say the same about ThinkPads. They just feel so flimsy, everything bends or flexes on them.
    - svennek 10y ago
      Well obviously (or maybe not) it was a joke. In all seriousness four comments: - I bend my X1 fully around all the time, not problem with the hinges - all X1's I have ever seen have 3-year ON-SITE warranty, your friend should call support and get it fixed next business day (where s/he is). - Strength and "flexiness" are not related, often materials are allowed to flex to keep them from breaking. The X1s are made of carbon fibre and have sufficient strength even if our ape-brains prefer something that does not flex... - and even if not, there is always next-day onsite warranty (mine is upgrade to 5 years - not having the option of onsite for Macs is alone a disqualifying trait for me)

tikhonj 10y ago

It's worth noting that thanks to a clever configuration, the X1's 14" screen and keyboard are a bit bigger than the MacBook—enough so that it feels significantly more roomy while only being a little bit bigger. (It barely fits into my bag designed for 13" laptops—but it fits!)

awqrre 10y ago

that was a unit mess... ThinkPad X1 Carbon: 2.51 lbs (1.14 kg) MacBook Pro 13 ......: 3.02 lbs (1.37 kg) or about 17% lighter