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Isn't Apple just as bad as google with user data? I feel that all of them, apple, google, facebook, amazon, they all disregard our privacy.

nicky0 10y ago
Actually no, privacy is a point of difference between Apple and the other companies. Apple has very different philosophy regarding user data. Generally they try to keep it on your phone and they don't suck everything up into their datacenter, as they aren't in the business of selling ads. That's why their "intelligent assistant" stuff isn't as good as Google's.
- X86BSD 10y ago
  Google sells your data for $$. It is their main income stream. Apple doesn't. They don't want your data and don't enter markets in fact because they don't want to monetize you or your data.
  - eh78ssxv2f 10y ago
    Not to nit-pick but this is completely wrong. Google does not sell the data. They use the data to show relevant ads. The advertisers have no access to the user data.
  - kalleboo 10y ago
    Google sells access to your data for $$ (i.e., ads). They wouldn't sell the data itself, that would devalue it.
    - lostlogin 10y ago
      It's somewhat reassuring seeing Apple stand up to the FBI, which I haven't seen any other company of their size do. There may be other examples but I've missed them.
      - Godel_unicode 10y ago
        Potentially relevant (although less so with no more fire phone) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-switch/wp/2016/12/28/can-alexa-help-solve-a-murder-police-think-so-but-amazon-wont-give-up-her-data/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/...
- Infinitesimus 10y ago
  Didn't Apple recently start selling targeted ads for the app store? Not the same as Google/FB of course but the fact that they can target an ad based on some profile means they have the data.
  - tomwilson 10y ago
    They're not really targeted. You just purchase keywords for your app and then they can display it at the top if someone searches for those words. They're not doing anything fancy like seeing what other apps you have or using any of the information they may or may not have about you. http://searchads.apple.com http://searchads.apple.com
krrrh 10y ago
They could hardly be more different. See: https://www.apple.com/privacy/ https://www.apple.com/privacy/
- PunchTornado 10y ago
  Pff. All bullshit. Finally, I want to be absolutely clear that we have never worked with any government agency from any country to create a backdoor in any of our products or services. We have also never allowed access to our servers. And we never will. Did they forget that they participated in PRISM since 2012??? All empty words if you ask me.
adamlett 10y ago
I feel that all of them, apple, google, facebook, amazon, they all disregard our privacy. You feel that?

nicky0 10y ago

Actually no, privacy is a point of difference between Apple and the other companies. Apple has very different philosophy regarding user data. Generally they try to keep it on your phone and they don't suck everything up into their datacenter, as they aren't in the business of selling ads. That's why their "intelligent assistant" stuff isn't as good as Google's.

X86BSD 10y ago
Google sells your data for $$. It is their main income stream. Apple doesn't. They don't want your data and don't enter markets in fact because they don't want to monetize you or your data.
- eh78ssxv2f 10y ago
  Not to nit-pick but this is completely wrong. Google does not sell the data. They use the data to show relevant ads. The advertisers have no access to the user data.
- kalleboo 10y ago
  Google sells access to your data for $$ (i.e., ads). They wouldn't sell the data itself, that would devalue it.
  - lostlogin 10y ago
    It's somewhat reassuring seeing Apple stand up to the FBI, which I haven't seen any other company of their size do. There may be other examples but I've missed them.
    - Godel_unicode 10y ago
      Potentially relevant (although less so with no more fire phone) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-switch/wp/2016/12/28/can-alexa-help-solve-a-murder-police-think-so-but-amazon-wont-give-up-her-data/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/...
Infinitesimus 10y ago
Didn't Apple recently start selling targeted ads for the app store? Not the same as Google/FB of course but the fact that they can target an ad based on some profile means they have the data.
- tomwilson 10y ago
  They're not really targeted. You just purchase keywords for your app and then they can display it at the top if someone searches for those words. They're not doing anything fancy like seeing what other apps you have or using any of the information they may or may not have about you. http://searchads.apple.com http://searchads.apple.com

krrrh 10y ago

They could hardly be more different. See: https://www.apple.com/privacy/ https://www.apple.com/privacy/

PunchTornado 10y ago
Pff. All bullshit. Finally, I want to be absolutely clear that we have never worked with any government agency from any country to create a backdoor in any of our products or services. We have also never allowed access to our servers. And we never will. Did they forget that they participated in PRISM since 2012??? All empty words if you ask me.

adamlett 10y ago

I feel that all of them, apple, google, facebook, amazon, they all disregard our privacy. You feel that?