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> El Monte has a history of generous employee benefits — including a four-day work week for civil servants, who put in 10 hours a day and have Fridays off. Wor
by emidln 10y ago
> El Monte has a history of generous employee benefits — including a four-day work week for civil servants, who put in 10 hours a day and have Fridays off.
Working 40 hours per week is a generous benefit?
- sparky_z 10y agoIt's something a lot of people want but most workplaces won't accept.
- dogma1138 10y agoThey often don't count brakes as work hours so 10 hour work day with 1.5 hours of total break time means 8.5 actual work hours per week, that's not bad.
- chaostheory 10y agoDon't most people outside of the public sector work more than 40 hours / week? That said, even in the public sector, once you've transitioned into management; the 40 hour work week no longer applies to you.
- fatbird 10y agoNo. Certain employment sectors like Silicon Valley and Wall St. have created cultures of expected overtime, but they're very unrepresentative. The US overall averages only 34.4 hours worked per week.
- rjbwork 10y agoTBF, aren't most people who work under 40hr/w want to work more, but are underemployed?
- manarth 10y agomost people who work under 40hr/w want to work more I suspect that they want to earn more. Most of those will be in low-pay, hourly-paid work.
- manarth 10y agoThe US overall averages only 34.4 hours worked per week Source? Forbes (in 2014) says the average is 47 hours per week [1]. Wikipedia (data from 2015) says it's 8.4 hours per day for a man, 7.7 for a woman (although there doesn't appear to be data on number of days per week). [2] OECD lists 1,790 hours per annum [3], which is 34.4 per week assuming no holiday is taken. The same OECD dataset gives the figure of 38.6 hours per week. [1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/09/01/a-40-hour-work-week-in-the-united-states-actually-lasts-47-hours/#2f7ea5344ef1 http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/09/01/a-40-ho... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time#United_States [3] http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=ANHRS http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=ANHRS
- jessaustin 10y agoSalaried workers usually work more. Hourly workers typically don't. Firms that are required to buy health insurance for full-time workers often cap hourly workers at 39 hrs/week. When they run out of available worker-hours, "salaried" assistant managers etc. pick up the slack.
- wutbrodo 10y agoThe claim isn't that forty hours a week is anything special, but that the flexibility to move around your hours to get a day off is. Pretty much everyone I know, including the white-collar six-figures professionals, would consider that a pretty great perk. With the possible exception of other people in tech, for whom flexibility is more common.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoCrabs always trying to grab the crab escaping from the pot and pull them back down with them.
- empath75 10y agoIt's pretty standard in the federal government.
- wutbrodo 10y agoDamn TIL, and to the govts credit
- manarth 10y agoWell, a 4-day working week is a decent benefit, one that many civil servants wouldn't get. Even though its balanced by longer working days, in a lot of places, those longer days would simply be unpaid overtime.
- edblarney 10y agoWorking 10 hours a day for four days is simply not an option anywhere in the private sector. Most competitive company white collar staff probably put in a little over 9 anyhow.
- flump_master 10y agoThis is not correct. The 4 x 10 schedule exists in engineering companies and operating companies in the oil refining industry. Source: I work I. This industry and amange people who work a 4day x 10 hour weekly work schedule. This 4 X 10 schedule or something similar (9/80) is useful to attract and retain engineering talent.
- flump_master 10y agoApologies for typos. Written from a phone.
- protomyth 10y agoMy friends doing cable laying were on 4x10. I don't think it's that rare for field work. Something about making logistics easier. We did 4x10 in the summer (we're public though). We did MTWH then TWHF and repeat giving a 4 day weekend then a 2 day weekend.
- edblarney 10y agoFor labour, anything that can be fairly well measured in 'hours in' certainly anything paid by the hour, it makes sense. But it is definitely rare in office environments anywhere in a competitive field.
- protomyth 10y agoI'm still convinced that programmers working 35-40 hours weeks will generate more correct code than "high performance" office environments working 60-80 hours a week.
- DrScump 10y agoFour-day workweeks boost days with absent full-time staff by 50% (2 days to 3), creating more demand for overtime hours. That's part of the strategy. That is magnified by the fact that those workers will preferentially come in mainly/only on the 7th day of their workweek, requiring double paid time rather than just time and a half.