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I don't think anyone is saying you suddenly don't need money, because in our current society you absolutely do. But it is possible to imagine one without it, on

I don't think anyone is saying you suddenly don't need money, because in our current society you absolutely do. But it is possible to imagine one without it, once we get over a certain threshold of technology.

blakeyrat 10y ago
What threshold is going to make prime real estate lots around Lake Washington not scarce? Asking seriously. Because I have a lot of imagination and I can't come up with anything. Except perhaps we all plug into VR 24/7 like The Matrix. But even in my fake Matrix VR house, I'd envy the guy with the real thing.
- canadian_voter 10y ago
  > What threshold is going to make prime real estate lots around Lake Washington not scarce? Warp drive? A thousand habitable planets that make Earth look like dusty, irradiated backwater? An vast frontier to explore, filled with endless new challenges and experiences?
- hacker_9 10y ago
  Like I replied to your other comment; portable housing that can move on demand. AI bots that rewire water pipes and electricity etc. It could be a regular event to re-landscape whole cities and towns.
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- bkirkby 10y ago
  you may envy the guy with the "real thing," but future generations likely won't. if you have fully immersive virtual reality environments, then it won't matter where you live. as someone who has done a recent job search, i knew i couldn't afford to live in the bay area with my large family, but half og the companies i interviewed with were in the bay area allowing me to work remotely. the technology and kind of work we do (software engineering) is getting good enough to broaden the reach of "the office." if we had just fully integrated audio and visual environments, for work collaboration, i could see many people choosing to live at the lakeside in montana and work in seattle rather than having to live on Lake Washington.
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- slifin 10y ago
  if $your_vr_house == $his_real_house & you are envious then you are the problem in the equation Which is why "work to improve ourselves" is important
stenecdote 10y ago
Off-topic: @hacker_9 just saw one of your recent comments (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13267106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13267106) and you seem to be thinking along similar lines to me and akkartik (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=akkartik https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=akkartik). You can read more about our work here (http://akkartik.name/about http://akkartik.name/about). Would love to hear any thoughts you have!
- hacker_9 10y ago
  Looks interesting, good luck with it. I don't have anything much concrete to add to what I last said, but I do think visual programming is still an unexplored space. I feel like the flowchart stuff is maybe thinking about the problem the wrong way round, putting code in nicely coloured boxes seems a bit redundant.

blakeyrat 10y ago

What threshold is going to make prime real estate lots around Lake Washington not scarce? Asking seriously. Because I have a lot of imagination and I can't come up with anything. Except perhaps we all plug into VR 24/7 like The Matrix. But even in my fake Matrix VR house, I'd envy the guy with the real thing.

canadian_voter 10y ago
> What threshold is going to make prime real estate lots around Lake Washington not scarce? Warp drive? A thousand habitable planets that make Earth look like dusty, irradiated backwater? An vast frontier to explore, filled with endless new challenges and experiences?
hacker_9 10y ago
Like I replied to your other comment; portable housing that can move on demand. AI bots that rewire water pipes and electricity etc. It could be a regular event to re-landscape whole cities and towns.
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bkirkby 10y ago
you may envy the guy with the "real thing," but future generations likely won't. if you have fully immersive virtual reality environments, then it won't matter where you live. as someone who has done a recent job search, i knew i couldn't afford to live in the bay area with my large family, but half og the companies i interviewed with were in the bay area allowing me to work remotely. the technology and kind of work we do (software engineering) is getting good enough to broaden the reach of "the office." if we had just fully integrated audio and visual environments, for work collaboration, i could see many people choosing to live at the lakeside in montana and work in seattle rather than having to live on Lake Washington.
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slifin 10y ago
if $your_vr_house == $his_real_house & you are envious then you are the problem in the equation Which is why "work to improve ourselves" is important

stenecdote 10y ago

Off-topic: @hacker_9 just saw one of your recent comments (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13267106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13267106) and you seem to be thinking along similar lines to me and akkartik (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=akkartik https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=akkartik). You can read more about our work here (http://akkartik.name/about http://akkartik.name/about). Would love to hear any thoughts you have!

hacker_9 10y ago
Looks interesting, good luck with it. I don't have anything much concrete to add to what I last said, but I do think visual programming is still an unexplored space. I feel like the flowchart stuff is maybe thinking about the problem the wrong way round, putting code in nicely coloured boxes seems a bit redundant.