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I suspect you'll get a series of high fives and fist bumps just for criticising "mainstream liberalism," no matter how valid the criticism, because that's in vo

I suspect you'll get a series of high fives and fist bumps just for criticising "mainstream liberalism," no matter how valid the criticism, because that's in vogue right now. You're living under a rock if you believe nobody is studying or confronting IQ and culture and how it relates to race. It's just it's not really intellectually profound to repeat and rehash the same old "scientific racism" that's been going on for the last century and a half, that's why you hear less of it.

entropica 10y ago
Nope. I just left an elite American college, and most students there were downright condescending about any possibility that race and IQ are correlated. They felt similarly about culture and racial success. The far-left (which comprises much of the left these days) believes racial disparity is ~100% the fault of white people and their machinations. Please consider that there is good reason for the trend of challenging mainstream liberal hegemony.
garandus 10y ago
Have you ever considered that there's a good reason for that fad? I just graduated from an elite American college, and almost everyone there was extremely condescending about the idea that race and IQ were at all correlated. They felt similarly about racial culture and success. In these powerful people's eyes, the underperformance of non-White and non-Asian races is ~100% the fault of White people and their machinations.
- nommm-nommm 10y ago
  It's telling you created a throwaway to post this. Of course there's a good reason for that fad - scientific racism is a pseudoscience that was created in order to "prove" the inferiority of races and to justify colonialism, slavery, racism, social Darwinism, and racial eugenics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism The correlation between race and IQ is openly "admitted" right there in the into paragraph of the Wikipedia page! If academia is "hiding" it they sure are doing a bad job. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
  - bluthru 10y ago
    Is there any standardized test where blacks do as well as whites or asians? Did white culture somehow bias the test so that asians score higher than themselves?
  - garanduss 10y ago
    >It's telling you created a throwaway to post this. I rarely comment on HN and usually just register a new account when I do. I can understand why people would register a throwaway though, considering the blind hostility people like you have in these types of discussions. >The collation between race and IQ is openly "admitted" right there in the into paragraph of the Wikipedia page! Wha? The lead calls it a "contentious debate" and the body cites quality sources that suggest a causal connection.

entropica 10y ago

Nope. I just left an elite American college, and most students there were downright condescending about any possibility that race and IQ are correlated. They felt similarly about culture and racial success. The far-left (which comprises much of the left these days) believes racial disparity is ~100% the fault of white people and their machinations. Please consider that there is good reason for the trend of challenging mainstream liberal hegemony.

garandus 10y ago

Have you ever considered that there's a good reason for that fad? I just graduated from an elite American college, and almost everyone there was extremely condescending about the idea that race and IQ were at all correlated. They felt similarly about racial culture and success. In these powerful people's eyes, the underperformance of non-White and non-Asian races is ~100% the fault of White people and their machinations.

nommm-nommm 10y ago
It's telling you created a throwaway to post this. Of course there's a good reason for that fad - scientific racism is a pseudoscience that was created in order to "prove" the inferiority of races and to justify colonialism, slavery, racism, social Darwinism, and racial eugenics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism The correlation between race and IQ is openly "admitted" right there in the into paragraph of the Wikipedia page! If academia is "hiding" it they sure are doing a bad job. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
- bluthru 10y ago
  Is there any standardized test where blacks do as well as whites or asians? Did white culture somehow bias the test so that asians score higher than themselves?
- garanduss 10y ago
  >It's telling you created a throwaway to post this. I rarely comment on HN and usually just register a new account when I do. I can understand why people would register a throwaway though, considering the blind hostility people like you have in these types of discussions. >The collation between race and IQ is openly "admitted" right there in the into paragraph of the Wikipedia page! Wha? The lead calls it a "contentious debate" and the body cites quality sources that suggest a causal connection.