Overall, degrees don't mean anything to this sort of education anymore, especially in computing. Everybody in industry bemoans that people are graduating witho

Overall, degrees don't mean anything to this sort of education anymore, especially in computing. Everybody in industry bemoans that people are graduating without skills, knowledge, or formal thought processes. Universities have dropped the ball in the last few decades as they've been turned to profit centers, taking advantage of an increasingly externally funded captive audience who requires degrees. But while employers have some realization of this situation, they're still stuck on degrees being meaningful. I agree these skills aren't easy stuff, and the best place to pick it up is university. But going through university doesn't mean someone actually gained these skills. And being without a degree doesn't mean someone is without the skills. It's become orthogonal.