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> His trump card is the fact that all of his friends are playing [free game] and so he also will play it period and will be exposed to the in app purchases. If

by wolfgke 10y ago

> His trump card is the fact that all of his friends are playing [free game] and so he also will play it period and will be exposed to the in app purchases. If the friends are not much smarter this is rather an argument against the game to me. If the friends urge him (your "We are fun little social creatures" argument), one should tell the child to quit being friends with them, since they get the child down - thus they not people one should want to be friend with.

dsp1234 10y ago
one should tell the child to quit being friends with them My mom gave me advice like this when I was in the 3rd grade. I followed it. What she didn't tell me is that in school, the 30 kids I was with were going to be the same ones in 4th grade, 5th grade, 6th grade and 7th grade. I was ostracized by those friends, and having been shunned by that small group of friends (just 4 other kids out of 30), I was persona non grata to those others. Even when other kids joined the class between each year, they quickly found out that talking to me was a quick way to also be shunned. Between that incident in 3rd grade, and when I finally moved in 8th grade, I can count the number of other children who talked to me on 2 hands, and the number of total words spoken to me was less than a hundred. It's bad advice to ignore the fact that we are social creatures. Children can be exceptionally cruel.
alasdair_ 10y ago
> If the friends are not much smarter this is rather an argument against the game to me. If the friends urge him (your "We are fun little social creatures" argument), one should tell the child to quit being friends with them, since they get the child down - thus they not people one should want to be friend with. This seems like bad advice. School is unlike the adult world. Children are essentially stuck there for a decade or more - they can't (easily) quit, walk out, tell the boss to go fuck himself or otherwise do much else other than show up the next day. I'm not trying to be edgy when I say that in many ways it's like prison - you have little choice over who you associate with and things like violence amongst the inmates are accepted there in ways that would never be tolerated on the "outside".
- wolfgke 10y ago
  > School is unlike the adult world. Children are essentially stuck there for a decade or more - they can't (easily) quit, walk out, tell the boss to go fuck himself or otherwise do much else other than show up the next day. This is a good argument against the school system. > I'm not trying to be edgy when I say that in many ways it's like prison Indeed I always felt school as a prison, too. > This seems like bad advice. Here I think differently: The only winning move is not to play along with all the bad habits. The whole school system is also a good reason to never ever have children.

by wolfgke 10y ago

dsp1234 10y ago

one should tell the child to quit being friends with them My mom gave me advice like this when I was in the 3rd grade. I followed it. What she didn't tell me is that in school, the 30 kids I was with were going to be the same ones in 4th grade, 5th grade, 6th grade and 7th grade. I was ostracized by those friends, and having been shunned by that small group of friends (just 4 other kids out of 30), I was persona non grata to those others. Even when other kids joined the class between each year, they quickly found out that talking to me was a quick way to also be shunned. Between that incident in 3rd grade, and when I finally moved in 8th grade, I can count the number of other children who talked to me on 2 hands, and the number of total words spoken to me was less than a hundred. It's bad advice to ignore the fact that we are social creatures. Children can be exceptionally cruel.

alasdair_ 10y ago

> If the friends are not much smarter this is rather an argument against the game to me. If the friends urge him (your "We are fun little social creatures" argument), one should tell the child to quit being friends with them, since they get the child down - thus they not people one should want to be friend with. This seems like bad advice. School is unlike the adult world. Children are essentially stuck there for a decade or more - they can't (easily) quit, walk out, tell the boss to go fuck himself or otherwise do much else other than show up the next day. I'm not trying to be edgy when I say that in many ways it's like prison - you have little choice over who you associate with and things like violence amongst the inmates are accepted there in ways that would never be tolerated on the "outside".

wolfgke 10y ago
> School is unlike the adult world. Children are essentially stuck there for a decade or more - they can't (easily) quit, walk out, tell the boss to go fuck himself or otherwise do much else other than show up the next day. This is a good argument against the school system. > I'm not trying to be edgy when I say that in many ways it's like prison Indeed I always felt school as a prison, too. > This seems like bad advice. Here I think differently: The only winning move is not to play along with all the bad habits. The whole school system is also a good reason to never ever have children.