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well I would be happy to get ~60kUSD-80kUSD a year. For me that would be a dream since I have no bachelor and no master. Guess I probably wouldn't be the bigges

by merb 10y ago

well I would be happy to get ~60kUSD-80kUSD a year. For me that would be a dream since I have no bachelor and no master. Guess I probably wouldn't be the biggest talent to hire and I actually would need to change my main programming language for japanse carmakers (I actually do Scala mainly and I guess they probably need more like c/c++/rust guys...) also for 170k USD I would even move out of my country and learn a new language (not programming language)...

user5994461 10y ago
Well. The salaries are for experienced people, preferably with a bachelor/master.
- merb 10y ago
  I doubt that there aren't many bachelor/master out there, directly after graduating (where they already get 60k) who know the same as I do. With more than 5 years of experience and working with open source projects, I think I'm already pretty experienced. I just didn't take the time to study it, which I eventually will do (at some point in the future, if I have the courage to attend a evening school)
  - user5994461 10y ago
    Everyone think they're pretty experienced. People can't evaluate themselves, they don't know what they don't know ;)
    - merb 10y ago
      Well I already interviewed some people and I tought wow, they didn't programmed a lot during their studies. And I actually tried to study, but it was more like 10-20% science and the rest around business, that's why I canacled it after a year. Well I know a lot of smart people already and their were pretty smart directly after their graduation, but somehow I already seen a lot of people who just graduated and have no idea what they are doing. I actually think that's the people I compared myself with and I know that this is maybe not the best idea. (I already had some people that wanted to hire me, but they wouldn't have paid me 60k (the highest was like 45k-50k or so and some didn't even written what they offer but probably not more than 45k.) or more and it would've involved moving and that's what I didn't wanted, at that time)
      - user5994461 10y ago
        I think that comparing yourself to the worst of the crop is not a good idea ;) I don't know what city you're talking about. The articles was mixing salaries in some Japan cities and some American cities which is a very bad indicator.

by merb 10y ago

user5994461 10y ago

Well. The salaries are for experienced people, preferably with a bachelor/master.

merb 10y ago
I doubt that there aren't many bachelor/master out there, directly after graduating (where they already get 60k) who know the same as I do. With more than 5 years of experience and working with open source projects, I think I'm already pretty experienced. I just didn't take the time to study it, which I eventually will do (at some point in the future, if I have the courage to attend a evening school)
- user5994461 10y ago
  Everyone think they're pretty experienced. People can't evaluate themselves, they don't know what they don't know ;)
  - merb 10y ago
    Well I already interviewed some people and I tought wow, they didn't programmed a lot during their studies. And I actually tried to study, but it was more like 10-20% science and the rest around business, that's why I canacled it after a year. Well I know a lot of smart people already and their were pretty smart directly after their graduation, but somehow I already seen a lot of people who just graduated and have no idea what they are doing. I actually think that's the people I compared myself with and I know that this is maybe not the best idea. (I already had some people that wanted to hire me, but they wouldn't have paid me 60k (the highest was like 45k-50k or so and some didn't even written what they offer but probably not more than 45k.) or more and it would've involved moving and that's what I didn't wanted, at that time)
    - user5994461 10y ago
      I think that comparing yourself to the worst of the crop is not a good idea ;) I don't know what city you're talking about. The articles was mixing salaries in some Japan cities and some American cities which is a very bad indicator.