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I'm surprised you are seeing this with "most" sites - I barely ever see it, but I agree that it's infuriating when I do. I don't think this trend will last, th

by untog 10y ago

I'm surprised you are seeing this with "most" sites - I barely ever see it, but I agree that it's infuriating when I do. I don't think this trend will last, though. If a user denies the notification request then the site is never allowed to ask again - the user has to manually enable the permission. People are going to learn quite quickly that if you don't put the request in the context of a specific action you're screwing yourself over. That said, I wouldn't mind it if these prompts could only be shown in response to click events. Small downside, but it would stop the request spam quite effectively.

sarreph 10y ago
> If you don't put the request in the context of a specific action you're screwing yourself over. Very, very true; perfect example being iOS's trend towards 'soft-onboarding' privacy controls such as mic/camera/location.
- kevin_thibedeau 10y ago
  That just turns everyone into boiling frogs.
balac 10y ago
> If a user denies the notification request then the site is never allowed to ask again Sites will start doing what apps have been doing for a while on ios, use a custom dialog to ask for the permission until they agree, only then will they trigger the native, one time only dialog.
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- katpas 10y ago
  LinkedIn only offer an agree and a not now option. It's really irritating. I'm literally never going to enable that.
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    It wouldn't be their first UX dark pattern.
- hugodahl 10y ago
  I have already experienced this in several sites, which I didn't make note of. Comically enough, since they detect that I'm on a Mac (correct), they determine that showing a Safari-esque fake notification would be good enough? Using mainly Chrome, it certainly looks out of place, and fake/fraudulent.
majewsky 10y ago
I only see it in Slack, and there it's very much justified IMO.
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  I see it about once a day, on news sites; I commented about it recently in another thread. Slack and similar apps are the only reasonable use of this that I can imagine. Maybe gmail?

by untog 10y ago

sarreph 10y ago

> If you don't put the request in the context of a specific action you're screwing yourself over. Very, very true; perfect example being iOS's trend towards 'soft-onboarding' privacy controls such as mic/camera/location.

kevin_thibedeau 10y ago
That just turns everyone into boiling frogs.

balac 10y ago

> If a user denies the notification request then the site is never allowed to ask again Sites will start doing what apps have been doing for a while on ios, use a custom dialog to ask for the permission until they agree, only then will they trigger the native, one time only dialog.

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katpas 10y ago
LinkedIn only offer an agree and a not now option. It's really irritating. I'm literally never going to enable that.
- tedmiston 10y ago
  It wouldn't be their first UX dark pattern.
hugodahl 10y ago
I have already experienced this in several sites, which I didn't make note of. Comically enough, since they detect that I'm on a Mac (correct), they determine that showing a Safari-esque fake notification would be good enough? Using mainly Chrome, it certainly looks out of place, and fake/fraudulent.

majewsky 10y ago

I only see it in Slack, and there it's very much justified IMO.

pavel_lishin 10y ago
I see it about once a day, on news sites; I commented about it recently in another thread. Slack and similar apps are the only reasonable use of this that I can imagine. Maybe gmail?