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You know people who use Facebook. They upload pictures that, more likely than not, include your face. Facebook knows your face even if it doesn't know your name

You know people who use Facebook. They upload pictures that, more likely than not, include your face. Facebook knows your face even if it doesn't know your name (which people will often readily supply even if you don't have an account, so don't be so sure that they don't know your name too). You don't want to be "that guy" constantly demanding that your friends pull down any picture that you show up in, a request your friends will probably ignore anyway, and which will greatly diminish your personal likability. The government has your name, face, address, and other personal information stored away safely in DMV and passport databases, among several others, and this information is surely being used in similar ways behind the scenes. Facebook neatly bundles all of its data and submits it to the NSA via PRISM every day, granting the government full access to both datasets, although to be frank, just Facebook's dataset is going to be good enough to track someone down, even if a little more work is necessary to dig up the exact details like address. An interested party with such access could almost surely run a program and find the last people you were photographed with, which will almost definitely make it easy to find you personally. Combine this with smart surveillance systems and any time you enter a public place, sans cell phone or any other trackers, your personal location can be recorded. I don't really think there's any way around it and I am in fact surprised that people haven't already made a public "search by face" engine. Correlate this data with Facebook or some other all-seeing collections and the technology to dynamically identify every individual that enters a building via surveillance footage is already there. The only thing holding it back now is a) political correctness and b) the practical difficulty of extracting all of this data at a large scale into a format that can be easily cross-referenced. Both of these are permeable and temporary restrictions, and access to the data is already a non-issue for some actors. Expect to see such systems developed and sold in the next several years. Laws may make such software illegal, which will limit distribution to laypeople, but ultimately it will still be out there for interested parties to acquire. The age of unscannables and cyberpunks is upon us. The only way to retain privacy will be to wear your hair in interesting ways. [0] [0] https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/

pessimizer 10y ago
> You don't want to be "that guy" constantly demanding that your friends pull down any picture that you show up in, a request your friends will probably ignore anyway, and which will greatly diminish your personal likability. Mostly because it doesn't work. I've always been that guy, and people still constantly take your picture. There's a lot of money in convincing people that taking and sharing publicly pictures of oneself and everything that one comes into contact with is unbelievably fulfilling. > I don't really think there's any way around it and I am in fact surprised that people haven't already made a public "search by face" engine. Correlate this data with Facebook or some other all-seeing collections and the technology to dynamically identify every individual that enters a building via surveillance footage is already there. The only thing holding it back now is a) political correctness and b) the practical difficulty of extracting all of this data at a large scale into a format that can be easily cross-referenced. Both of these are permeable and temporary restrictions, and access to the data is already a non-issue for some actors. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-face-recognition-app-end-public-anonymity-vkontakte https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-... Its most innovative use seems to be to stalk and harass porn stars, prostitutes, and their families.
artursapek 10y ago
> You don't want to be "that guy" constantly demanding that your friends pull down any picture that you show up in, a request your friends will probably ignore anyway, and which will greatly diminish your personal likability. I'm not extreme enough to go there - what I meant more is that I don't use it because I don't want to support a company that violates peoples' privacy so much. I really could care less if they can recognize me in particular.
lobotryas 10y ago
>search by face The Russians have already done this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-face-recognition-app-end-public-anonymity-vkontakte https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/... Discreetly snap someone's photo and there's an excellent chance that face recognition will fond their social media profile. Now you have their name and potentially a lot more (age, school, hometown, etc). All it takes is enough centralization and a culture of sharing a lot online and you're loving in the future!

pessimizer 10y ago

> You don't want to be "that guy" constantly demanding that your friends pull down any picture that you show up in, a request your friends will probably ignore anyway, and which will greatly diminish your personal likability. Mostly because it doesn't work. I've always been that guy, and people still constantly take your picture. There's a lot of money in convincing people that taking and sharing publicly pictures of oneself and everything that one comes into contact with is unbelievably fulfilling. > I don't really think there's any way around it and I am in fact surprised that people haven't already made a public "search by face" engine. Correlate this data with Facebook or some other all-seeing collections and the technology to dynamically identify every individual that enters a building via surveillance footage is already there. The only thing holding it back now is a) political correctness and b) the practical difficulty of extracting all of this data at a large scale into a format that can be easily cross-referenced. Both of these are permeable and temporary restrictions, and access to the data is already a non-issue for some actors. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-face-recognition-app-end-public-anonymity-vkontakte https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-... Its most innovative use seems to be to stalk and harass porn stars, prostitutes, and their families.

artursapek 10y ago

> You don't want to be "that guy" constantly demanding that your friends pull down any picture that you show up in, a request your friends will probably ignore anyway, and which will greatly diminish your personal likability. I'm not extreme enough to go there - what I meant more is that I don't use it because I don't want to support a company that violates peoples' privacy so much. I really could care less if they can recognize me in particular.

lobotryas 10y ago

>search by face The Russians have already done this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/17/findface-face-recognition-app-end-public-anonymity-vkontakte https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/... Discreetly snap someone's photo and there's an excellent chance that face recognition will fond their social media profile. Now you have their name and potentially a lot more (age, school, hometown, etc). All it takes is enough centralization and a culture of sharing a lot online and you're loving in the future!