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> It's a very good living wage It's a very good wage for _surviving_. After taking care of rent/utility bills there's not much left to go around for actually

> It's a very good living wage It's a very good wage for _surviving_. After taking care of rent/utility bills there's not much left to go around for actually living.

hueving 10y ago
>After taking care of rent/bills there's not much left to go around for actually living. Are you implying rent/bills in Romania are $1k/mo?
- user5994461 10y ago
  The rent in UK (not London), Germany, France (not Paris), Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc... are under $1k a month. Romania is eastern Europe. It should be way cheaper than that.
  - emerongi 10y ago
    Rent most likely ~200, food ~100-200, misc ~100. You can get by with 300-500/month in eastern Europe, but you will have to monitor your expenses really closely. 300 if you live with friends/parents, cook at home and don't really do much else other than eat, sleep and work. Get a decent apartment, have some fun in your free time and 1000 does turn into a "barely getting by"-wage. 1.5k-2k is comfortable wage, but median is around 500-600 in most of eastern Europe afaik.
    - webmaven 10y ago
      How much for a decent high-speed Internet connection?
      - pilsetnieks 10y ago
        In Romania? $5 for 1Gbps, I'd wager. That is really not the problem there.
      - GoToRO 10y ago
        9$. VAT, 24%, included.
      - em500 10y ago
        Around 7 to 8 dollar/month https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Bucharest?displayCurrency=USD https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Bucharest?displayCu...
    - user5994461 10y ago
      It seems that your 1000 may be rather comfortable, compared to the major tech cities. Different places have different standards for "barely getting by".
    - hueving 10y ago
      >1000 does turn into a "barely getting by"-wage That's a very privileged view of "barely getting by". All you've described is someone spending everything they make on luxuries (nicer apartment, "having fun" - whatever that implies). By that token, someone could easily be "barely getting by" in San Francisco on an income of $400k by getting a nice 2 bedroom apartment to themselves in a hot location.
- bogdanu 10y ago
  $1k/mo is the budget for an employee. Based on an salary app I've found online, an employee will receive around 680$/month after all taxes. It's a bit under-average for entry level devs in Romania but it's enough to live decent (the average national wage is around 460$ per month after taxes).
usaphp 10y ago
One could say the same for Bay Area salary of $150k.

> It's a very good living wage It's a very good wage for _surviving_. After taking care of rent/utility bills there's not much left to go around for actually living.

hueving 10y ago

>After taking care of rent/bills there's not much left to go around for actually living. Are you implying rent/bills in Romania are $1k/mo?

user5994461 10y ago
The rent in UK (not London), Germany, France (not Paris), Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc... are under $1k a month. Romania is eastern Europe. It should be way cheaper than that.
- emerongi 10y ago
  Rent most likely ~200, food ~100-200, misc ~100. You can get by with 300-500/month in eastern Europe, but you will have to monitor your expenses really closely. 300 if you live with friends/parents, cook at home and don't really do much else other than eat, sleep and work. Get a decent apartment, have some fun in your free time and 1000 does turn into a "barely getting by"-wage. 1.5k-2k is comfortable wage, but median is around 500-600 in most of eastern Europe afaik.
  - webmaven 10y ago
    How much for a decent high-speed Internet connection?
    - pilsetnieks 10y ago
      In Romania? $5 for 1Gbps, I'd wager. That is really not the problem there.
    - GoToRO 10y ago
      9$. VAT, 24%, included.
    - em500 10y ago
      Around 7 to 8 dollar/month https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Bucharest?displayCurrency=USD https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Bucharest?displayCu...
  - user5994461 10y ago
    It seems that your 1000 may be rather comfortable, compared to the major tech cities. Different places have different standards for "barely getting by".
  - hueving 10y ago
    >1000 does turn into a "barely getting by"-wage That's a very privileged view of "barely getting by". All you've described is someone spending everything they make on luxuries (nicer apartment, "having fun" - whatever that implies). By that token, someone could easily be "barely getting by" in San Francisco on an income of $400k by getting a nice 2 bedroom apartment to themselves in a hot location.
bogdanu 10y ago
$1k/mo is the budget for an employee. Based on an salary app I've found online, an employee will receive around 680$/month after all taxes. It's a bit under-average for entry level devs in Romania but it's enough to live decent (the average national wage is around 460$ per month after taxes).

usaphp 10y ago

One could say the same for Bay Area salary of $150k.