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Hmm. Took one course of cipro in early 2010. The year after that was the worst of my life health wise. After that, have steadily improved. I can't say it's cip

by graeme 10y ago

Hmm. Took one course of cipro in early 2010. The year after that was the worst of my life health wise. After that, have steadily improved. I can't say it's cipro related. The stuff that happened was: very bad digestion, chronic left arm pain due to typing in a poor ergonomic position, and a bike accident + broken tooth (this clearly wasn't due to an antibiotic). I did, however, likely acquire MRSA in a wound on my chin that I got during the bike accident (I found out I had MRSA five years later; it had moved to my nose and persisted there at an asymptomatic/occasional flare up level). MRSA seems linked to cipro usage. I also acquired tinnitus at some point, most likely after the bike accident. My liver enzymes also tend to be on the high end of the normal range or slightly above it. May have started bruxism that year or the one after, but it's hard to date when teeth grinding started. That one could be something that developed after the bike accident. Nothing necessarily specific to cipro. But, supposing it did contribute to any of that, is there a normal protocol to reverse effects? Beyond what you wrote above, which would be: eat seafood and certain antioxidants (which?) I'm in a pretty good state right now, and also nowhere near certain Cipro had any impact on me. But, it was a very rough year, and I had always been in excellent health prior to that. So if there's some sort of low side effect thing I could adopt such as certain foods, it's worth trying. btw, here's the source on cipro and MRSA. I hadn't know about this link: http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120921/Ciprofloxacin-use-is-major-contributor-to-MRSA-spread-in-hospitals.aspx http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120921/Ciprofloxacin-use-...

stevebmark 10y ago
FQs are some of the most powerful antibiotics in terms of destroying healthy gut bacteria, and likely cause permanent gut flora changes after use. Some of the bacteria it destroys are oxygen sensitive, so they aren't in probiotics because they can't survive long enough to be manufactured into a pill. Muscle problems, especially muscle twitches, are very common among FQ toxicity sufferers. This is suspected nerve damage but there may be other factors. FQs are well known to cause tinnitus, with the suspected biological mechanism being nerve damage to the ear. Unfortunately, the medical community is severely lacking in treating these conditions, so there are no reliable tests for determining the underlying damage. It may be impossible to definitively know if any of these things were caused by the cipro.
- graeme 10y ago
  Fair enough. So are there any further treatment indications, e.g. such as a way to get oxygen sensitive bacteria other than a pill? Likely would help my digestion whatever the cause. A doctor who examined my tinnitus actually suspects it's nerve damage. However, it may well have been due to the bike accident, so it's hard to tell. No muscle twitches that I'm aware of. More tension.
  - stevebmark 10y ago
    Yes. A DIY home fecal transplant.

by graeme 10y ago

stevebmark 10y ago

FQs are some of the most powerful antibiotics in terms of destroying healthy gut bacteria, and likely cause permanent gut flora changes after use. Some of the bacteria it destroys are oxygen sensitive, so they aren't in probiotics because they can't survive long enough to be manufactured into a pill. Muscle problems, especially muscle twitches, are very common among FQ toxicity sufferers. This is suspected nerve damage but there may be other factors. FQs are well known to cause tinnitus, with the suspected biological mechanism being nerve damage to the ear. Unfortunately, the medical community is severely lacking in treating these conditions, so there are no reliable tests for determining the underlying damage. It may be impossible to definitively know if any of these things were caused by the cipro.

graeme 10y ago
Fair enough. So are there any further treatment indications, e.g. such as a way to get oxygen sensitive bacteria other than a pill? Likely would help my digestion whatever the cause. A doctor who examined my tinnitus actually suspects it's nerve damage. However, it may well have been due to the bike accident, so it's hard to tell. No muscle twitches that I'm aware of. More tension.
- stevebmark 10y ago
  Yes. A DIY home fecal transplant.