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Easy passwords are better than default passwords.
by wtfishackernews 10y ago
Easy passwords are better than default passwords.
- pryelluw 10y agoTrue, but not when the easy password is 12345abc. :(
- cm2187 10y agoIf there is an efficient brute force protection, 12345abc isn't that bad. The problem is if you let people try as many passwords as they want.
- pryelluw 10y agoThey do have a 5 tries limit before a 10 minute lockout.
- jMyles 10y agoIsn't that asking for DOS?
- Groxx 10y agosure, but then you know something's up, and you can go unplug it / investigate. better than allowing infinite attempts.
- kedean 10y agoI think the modern consensus is that reasonable rate-limiting is a superior option. It doesn't allow for DOS, but still prevents brute-forcing attack. You can even set things up such that too many attempts triggers a notification that something is probably wrong, but users can't be locked out of their own accounts.
- Groxx 10y ago"Allow 5 tries, then lock everyone out for 10 minutes" is a rate limiter. If you're talking about an arbitrarily complex one: either you're able to be locked out too, or a botnet allows near-arbitrary retries. A botnet of insecure cameras, perhaps. It's all a tradeoff. But a smart rate limiter is complex, and rarely necessary when you can be expected to have physical access to the device. Plus, these things haven't even managed basic security, why should we expect them to implement a good rate limiter?