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It's basically a glorified trade job and everyone already has the tools in front of them. That attitude certainly explains a fair few 'legacy' systems I've see

It's basically a glorified trade job and everyone already has the tools in front of them. That attitude certainly explains a fair few 'legacy' systems I've seen.

praptak 10y ago
I wish it was a trade job. What I see in crappy systems is lack of tradesmanship.
denisenepraunig 10y ago
I heard about 10.000 lines of code in one function at a job interview. I did not accept that job offer and I am quite happy that I don't have to maintain this... This is a serious lack of craftsmanship! A little bit of Clean Code for every programmer please... But I am drifting a bit off topic now.
- genieyclo 10y ago
  How is this possible...what language/framework/tool was this in or for?
  - lovich 10y ago
    I've found this pretty frequently at every corporate workplace I've come into. Pretty much every job I've had involved heavy refactoring of the code base for the first month or two. The worst I have ever seen was at my current where I discovered that for every new function the old dev added, he had copied and pasted the entire code from the previous function and then added his new stuff at the end. The last function was over 20k lines if I remember correctly.
- jedmeyers 10y ago
  Have you looked into any of SAP ABAP legacy repos, by any chance? What is your take on that?
dom0 10y ago
I actually like seeing my job as a craftsmanship, because (at least in my native language) there is a certain "honour of doing good work" connected to it. Also, no shame to work a trade job at all. Not sure where people get that idea?!
- denisenepraunig 10y ago
  I honour every trade job! And as an office worker (secretary/ developer) I really miss to create something physical or with my hands. I started to create my own feminine developer t-shirts (NERDpraunig.com), something I can touch and wear. I don't care which profession someone chooses and whether it is more brain or more physical work.
  - marktangotango 10y ago
    Nice in context link drop :) Consider adding a link to the medium article (aka a blurb at the bottom "visit the authors site at ...") to generate some traffic. http://nerdpraunig.com http://nerdpraunig.com

It's basically a glorified trade job and everyone already has the tools in front of them. That attitude certainly explains a fair few 'legacy' systems I've seen.

praptak 10y ago

I wish it was a trade job. What I see in crappy systems is lack of tradesmanship.

denisenepraunig 10y ago

I heard about 10.000 lines of code in one function at a job interview. I did not accept that job offer and I am quite happy that I don't have to maintain this... This is a serious lack of craftsmanship! A little bit of Clean Code for every programmer please... But I am drifting a bit off topic now.

genieyclo 10y ago
How is this possible...what language/framework/tool was this in or for?
- lovich 10y ago
  I've found this pretty frequently at every corporate workplace I've come into. Pretty much every job I've had involved heavy refactoring of the code base for the first month or two. The worst I have ever seen was at my current where I discovered that for every new function the old dev added, he had copied and pasted the entire code from the previous function and then added his new stuff at the end. The last function was over 20k lines if I remember correctly.
jedmeyers 10y ago
Have you looked into any of SAP ABAP legacy repos, by any chance? What is your take on that?

dom0 10y ago

I actually like seeing my job as a craftsmanship, because (at least in my native language) there is a certain "honour of doing good work" connected to it. Also, no shame to work a trade job at all. Not sure where people get that idea?!

denisenepraunig 10y ago
I honour every trade job! And as an office worker (secretary/ developer) I really miss to create something physical or with my hands. I started to create my own feminine developer t-shirts (NERDpraunig.com), something I can touch and wear. I don't care which profession someone chooses and whether it is more brain or more physical work.
- marktangotango 10y ago
  Nice in context link drop :) Consider adding a link to the medium article (aka a blurb at the bottom "visit the authors site at ...") to generate some traffic. http://nerdpraunig.com http://nerdpraunig.com