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I haven't personally tried this with recent games, but as a rule, AAA titles do degrade to older hardware on their own, and when they don't, there are communiti

I haven't personally tried this with recent games, but as a rule, AAA titles do degrade to older hardware on their own, and when they don't, there are communities that publish modified resource packs and super-low-end configs to squeeze maximal FPS out of a low-end graphics solution. I used one such solution to run Team Fortress 2 via WINE many years ago on a very crappy AMD machine with integrated graphics. Yes, the game looked like an N64 game, but it was playable at a good frame rate. Lowering your resolution (play windowed) and going to minimal built-in configs is usually good enough for hardware up to 4-5 years old, which is reasonably competitive with the console lifecycle. Older than this and you usually need to get into hacking the resources/config to make it playable. There may be exceptions, but this is absolutely the rule for AAA titles. Studios could never make their money back if they targeted only users with discrete GPUs.

izacus 10y ago
> There may be exceptions, but this is absolutely the rule for AAA titles. Studios could never make their money back if they targeted only users with discrete GPUs. Only 17% of Steam users have an Intel card. Not sure how you came to that conclusion :) Let's see the most successful games of the year: - Battlefield 1, needs at least GeForce GTX 660 / Radeon 7850 with 2GB of VRAM. Will not start on Intel. - Call of Duty: Inifinite Warfare. Same requirement. - Overwatch, actually runs on Intel HD 4400. Needs at least 660/7950 to run well etc. :)
- BinaryIdiot 10y ago
  > Only 17% of Steam users have an Intel card. Not sure how you came to that conclusion :) You're using Steam statistics as if they applied, proportionally, to the PC gaming industry when its users are majority PC gaming enthusiasts. This also means Steam makes up a small amount of most gaming company's sales. The majority is still done through big box stores. The statistics are interesting but I'm not sure how useful they are for determining target requirements from most gaming companies.
- cookiecaper 10y ago
  BF 1: The GTX 660 is 4.5 years old. Radeon 7850 is 4.75 years old. It appears to start on an Intel HD 4600 (released in mid-2013, so 3.5 years old, 1 year newer than minimum requirements for discrete GPUs) in this video [0] and Intel has released drivers specifically to counteract bugs in BF1 [1]. That certainly sounds like it starts on at least some iGPUs to me? For the record, I played BF 1 at 3440x1440 on my GTX 670 (which I just replaced with a 1070 on Xmas Eve). It was plenty playable. No, I couldn't crank the settings to ultra, but most casual PC gamers don't expect to be able to. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTO6GvhC16o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTO6GvhC16o [1] https://communities.intel.com/thread/107556 https://communities.intel.com/thread/107556

izacus 10y ago

> There may be exceptions, but this is absolutely the rule for AAA titles. Studios could never make their money back if they targeted only users with discrete GPUs. Only 17% of Steam users have an Intel card. Not sure how you came to that conclusion :) Let's see the most successful games of the year: - Battlefield 1, needs at least GeForce GTX 660 / Radeon 7850 with 2GB of VRAM. Will not start on Intel. - Call of Duty: Inifinite Warfare. Same requirement. - Overwatch, actually runs on Intel HD 4400. Needs at least 660/7950 to run well etc. :)

BinaryIdiot 10y ago
> Only 17% of Steam users have an Intel card. Not sure how you came to that conclusion :) You're using Steam statistics as if they applied, proportionally, to the PC gaming industry when its users are majority PC gaming enthusiasts. This also means Steam makes up a small amount of most gaming company's sales. The majority is still done through big box stores. The statistics are interesting but I'm not sure how useful they are for determining target requirements from most gaming companies.
cookiecaper 10y ago
BF 1: The GTX 660 is 4.5 years old. Radeon 7850 is 4.75 years old. It appears to start on an Intel HD 4600 (released in mid-2013, so 3.5 years old, 1 year newer than minimum requirements for discrete GPUs) in this video [0] and Intel has released drivers specifically to counteract bugs in BF1 [1]. That certainly sounds like it starts on at least some iGPUs to me? For the record, I played BF 1 at 3440x1440 on my GTX 670 (which I just replaced with a 1070 on Xmas Eve). It was plenty playable. No, I couldn't crank the settings to ultra, but most casual PC gamers don't expect to be able to. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTO6GvhC16o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTO6GvhC16o [1] https://communities.intel.com/thread/107556 https://communities.intel.com/thread/107556