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Karma Hack - Encourage the creation of interesting content
I'm honestly not much of a karma-whore, so I'm not terribly motivated by it.
However, it occurred to me that it might be interesting to roll content creation into the karma score.
Example: Paul Buchheit writes a lot of good stuff. Other people submit it. They get points. However, if you could associate Paul's blog to his YC.News account, then you could have some of that karma attach itself to him.
Now, how to reliably "claim" a blog is a challenge. And WTF you do with a site like the BBC, Wired, SFGate, etc.
for reference: (http://searchyc.com/top/domains_by_points)
- aneesh 19y agoOn a related note, the community's voting patterns encourage the witty one-line comments over the thoughtful 3-sentence comments. Look at any article, and you'll see the type of comments this incentive produces.
- ejs 19y ago<insert witty one line comment here> ;)
- mickt 19y ago<insert even wittier reply here> :p
- flyhighplato 19y agoIt's hard to represent something subjective in a single number. This problem isn't really solvable. Making the karma algorithm too complex could make it even worse.
- yters 19y agoI think making someone's karma filter subjective could solve the problem. Then it would also be hard to game the system, since you'd have to know how most people filtered karma. This filter could either be based on how people vote, or using karma and something else as the criteria. An example of the latter, I've thought the good comments would be those that maximize length and karma. That means they are both substantive and well written enough to hold people's attention. Plus, it's too long to be witty:) This could be implemented entirely client side without the need to open up voting data. Finally, it'd fit great into the whole hacker mentality, since people could pass around and hack the best filters. (note: this idea has been said by many others, I'm merely trying to perpetuate the meme)
- tefflox 19y agoLet's break it down. We've got a POINT-BASED SYSTEM OF MATERIALIZED KARMA. I invented it. Call me Lucifer. Is there any way at all it isn't doomed to fail, and soon? Can you think of a mode of benevolent intention operating on a more superficial level? It is evil. QED
- kingnothing 19y agoAlthough I'm guilty of making an occasional witty one liner, I generally down-mod them from the outset to try to discourage them. It seems like some others do as well.
- mattmaroon 19y agoHa, I can't imagine what my karma would be if I got points for the articles I submitted that others posted. But I guess if I cared, I would just post them myself.
- martianpenguin 19y agoDoes the karma really do anything? Or is there a complicated algorithm that sorts comments based on people's karma?
- aneesh 19y agoI'm pretty sure the sorting of comments has nothing to do with karma of the poster, just the votes on that particular comment, and how old it is - similar to how stories are ranked on the front page.
- martianpenguin 19y agoIf that's the case, then why do people even have a karma score? The karma should just be a score for each comment/article.
- davidw 19y agoI kind of like that idea. It's useful to keep track of what people have generally agreed with in a discussion, or to move things up the front page, but significantly less so for the site as a whole.
- webwright 19y agoIt's making a game out of it, which gets a small subset of users maniacal about their Karma score and thus submitting tons of good content. PG = Crafty Devil.
- martianpenguin 19y agoThe karma score of each person should show up next to people's names then. It's kinda hidden away right now.
- toffer 19y agoThis sounds like a good idea for a greasemonkey script.
- codeLullaby 19y agoThis seems to question the whole purpose of karma. When a user upvote a story, isn't he saying "Thanks for sharing this with the community.I want more people to see this" rather than "i agree with the content of this article"? Karma encourages users to participate in the sharing activity.Its purpose is not to thank the content creator, but the person who took time to share it. [Vote ≠ Karma]
- webwright 19y agoI would say that an upvote is saying: "This is good content. I'm glad you submitted it, I'm glad the writer wrote it, and I'm glad I read it." Upvotes are NOT saying "I agree with this" (I don't think). The current karma encourages scouring the web for good content for the community. It does not reward creating of good content for the community... I suppose a person could submit their own stuff if they cared that much.
- vlad 19y agoThere are more than two reasons a user might upvote another user's post. Some of the many situations one might click the up arrow: - to thank others for posting to one's thread in order to create a positive feedback loop - to increase visibility of what a user wrote or submitted - to display agreement with points made in the submission - to "save" the submission for future reference, as users can track what they've upvoted in the past - to promote a specific idea or ideology
- ivankirigin 19y agoTipjoy has a system of associating sites with users. Manually finding that someone owns a site is easy. Automatic authentication involves a detectable change in the site. For example, if PG wrote a crawler to find HackerNews:ivankirigin on my blog, it would be known that I own that blog (just the subdomain though, not all of blogspot.com). The vast majority of content on HackerNews is created by non-hackernews readers. They aren't going to do anything like this. So while such a system would be useful, it would be practically difficult to make a real impact.
- nreece 19y ago>> how to reliably "claim" a blog is a challenge OpenID
- Kaizyn 19y agoThe 'problem' of claiming site/post ownership could be solved with public key cryptography. However, so far, no one's bothered to do so.