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Yeh - the impact from overclocking isn't quite what it once was. It's nice that nowadays we're not left wanting for CPU speed even for most entry level processo

by smcl 10y ago

Yeh - the impact from overclocking isn't quite what it once was. It's nice that nowadays we're not left wanting for CPU speed even for most entry level processors. But I fondly remember feeling pretty excited by the "AXIA" AMD Athlons and pushing them to some pretty amazing results with fairly standard cooling (1.2/1.33GHz -> 1.66GHz and above, iirc)

theandrewbailey 10y ago
I got a hand-me-down Athlon XP 2500+ around 2004-ish. I had read what you could do with it, so I did: bumped it up to 3200+ specs. It ran like that for years, until I saw the motherboard capacitors leaking and moved on.
- floatboth 10y ago
  Oh yeah. When I was a kid, my parents bought me an Athlon XP 2500+… overclocked to 3200+ and ran like that for many, many years. Eventually I gave that PC away to someone. I kinda regret that decision now :D
rasz_pl 10y ago
Its not the case of Overclocking no longer giving you expected speedup, its INTEL directly FIGHTING with overclockers and blocking every avenue that would enable you to gain performance for free. Nowadays Overclocking is just another premium market segment being milked by Intel with K/Z series chips. Every single Intel chipset is 'in theory' capable of overclocking (multiplier change, Turbo). Its all blocked on the Bios/OEM agreement[1]/microcode(!)[2] level. Sometimes OEMs grow bold and ignore it (Asrock pioneering H81 overclocking), sometimes they get spanked by Intel and quickly release 'updated' bios removing OC. OC in itself works great. You an buy $72 3.2GHz G3258 haswell, OC to 4.3GHz (stock cooler, or ~4.5Ghz on custom) and enjoy >30% speed improvement. Especially great for single threaded games(written in python!) like World of Tanks where your oced $72 cpu performs like $300 4790K. [1] http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asrock-killed-overclocking-intel-skylake-nonk/ http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asrock-killed-overclo... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/3ji7im/nonz_overclocking_removed_from_bios_what_can_i_do/ https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/3ji7im/nonz_o... [2] http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/373250-recent-windows-update-kb3064209-causes-windows-7-not-boot-5.html http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/373250...
- floatboth 10y ago
  Board manufacturers are unofficially releasing "non-K OC BIOSes" to http://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-bios-list/ http://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-b... These firmwares disable power management completely, so that the microcode cannot even read the BCLK frequency and detect overclocking. As a side effect, you cannot use integrated graphics, and AVX instructions become slow — even slightly slower than at stock frequency (need power management to ramp up the AVX parts of the chip to full speed). But if you're not encoding video all day, you can save some money by buying a 6400 instead of a 6600K.
- revelation 10y ago
  Not just overclockers, Intel has been gouging everyone ever since AMD stopped producing a competitive CPU (so basically since Core 2 or 2006.. man it's been that long?)
  - snuxoll 10y ago
    Here's hoping for Ryzen. Not only has Intel locked up the consumer segment but the server one as well. $200 for an E5-2407v2 is ludicrous, I'm really hoping AMD pulls a rabbit out of their hat because we need some real competition in the x86 space again.
flamedoge 10y ago
I had a 1.8ghz intel low-end pentium processor that could get overclocked to 2.66ghz

by smcl 10y ago

theandrewbailey 10y ago

I got a hand-me-down Athlon XP 2500+ around 2004-ish. I had read what you could do with it, so I did: bumped it up to 3200+ specs. It ran like that for years, until I saw the motherboard capacitors leaking and moved on.

floatboth 10y ago
Oh yeah. When I was a kid, my parents bought me an Athlon XP 2500+… overclocked to 3200+ and ran like that for many, many years. Eventually I gave that PC away to someone. I kinda regret that decision now :D

rasz_pl 10y ago

Its not the case of Overclocking no longer giving you expected speedup, its INTEL directly FIGHTING with overclockers and blocking every avenue that would enable you to gain performance for free. Nowadays Overclocking is just another premium market segment being milked by Intel with K/Z series chips. Every single Intel chipset is 'in theory' capable of overclocking (multiplier change, Turbo). Its all blocked on the Bios/OEM agreement[1]/microcode(!)[2] level. Sometimes OEMs grow bold and ignore it (Asrock pioneering H81 overclocking), sometimes they get spanked by Intel and quickly release 'updated' bios removing OC. OC in itself works great. You an buy $72 3.2GHz G3258 haswell, OC to 4.3GHz (stock cooler, or ~4.5Ghz on custom) and enjoy >30% speed improvement. Especially great for single threaded games(written in python!) like World of Tanks where your oced $72 cpu performs like $300 4790K. [1] http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asrock-killed-overclocking-intel-skylake-nonk/ http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asrock-killed-overclo... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/3ji7im/nonz_overclocking_removed_from_bios_what_can_i_do/ https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/3ji7im/nonz_o... [2] http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/373250-recent-windows-update-kb3064209-causes-windows-7-not-boot-5.html http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/373250...

floatboth 10y ago
Board manufacturers are unofficially releasing "non-K OC BIOSes" to http://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-bios-list/ http://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-b... These firmwares disable power management completely, so that the microcode cannot even read the BCLK frequency and detect overclocking. As a side effect, you cannot use integrated graphics, and AVX instructions become slow — even slightly slower than at stock frequency (need power management to ramp up the AVX parts of the chip to full speed). But if you're not encoding video all day, you can save some money by buying a 6400 instead of a 6600K.
revelation 10y ago
Not just overclockers, Intel has been gouging everyone ever since AMD stopped producing a competitive CPU (so basically since Core 2 or 2006.. man it's been that long?)
- snuxoll 10y ago
  Here's hoping for Ryzen. Not only has Intel locked up the consumer segment but the server one as well. $200 for an E5-2407v2 is ludicrous, I'm really hoping AMD pulls a rabbit out of their hat because we need some real competition in the x86 space again.

flamedoge 10y ago

I had a 1.8ghz intel low-end pentium processor that could get overclocked to 2.66ghz