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The point is clearly that you might someday wake up and realize your behavior no longer matches the majority "citizen". If your city isn't like NYC right now it

The point is clearly that you might someday wake up and realize your behavior no longer matches the majority "citizen". If your city isn't like NYC right now it's only ever going to move in that direction.

nickff 10y ago
I actually live in a city centre, a very walk-able area which is well served by public transit and bike lanes. This is not about me, this is about the thousands of people I've seen who are spending hours of their lives suffering in traffic.
marcoperaza 10y ago
>If your city isn't like NYC right now it's only ever going to move in that direction. That's a hell of an assumption. I know people who live in NYC, making very good money, and they're all crammed into tiny apartments with multiple roommates because the congestion and rent are so ridiculous. That's fine for people in their early 20s, but do you really think these same people are still going to live in NYC once they get married and have kids? A small percent will buy a place in NYC, and the rest will move out to the suburbs. If anything, I'd predict that small and walkable urban areas, interspersed inside large suburbs, are more likely to be the future growth areas.
- dodders 10y ago
  I know people with kids that live in NYC - it's perfectly affordable a bit further out into the boroughs and they all have the subway. I also know a lot of people that had kids and moved to the burbs - but they all commute via public transport (either train or bus). I guess my point is that anecdotes don't really mean anything?
- chris_7 10y ago
  No one making "very good money" (I assume >= $100k) needs to live with roommates in NYC. You can easily afford a 1br on that, and in a trendy neighborhood too, e.g. Williamsburg. And once you have a partner to move in with, you can easily afford a giant 1br or a 2br if you want that.

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The point is clearly that you might someday wake up and realize your behavior no longer matches the majority "citizen". If your city isn't like NYC right now it

by revelation 10y ago

nickff 10y ago
I actually live in a city centre, a very walk-able area which is well served by public transit and bike lanes. This is not about me, this is about the thousands of people I've seen who are spending hours of their lives suffering in traffic.
marcoperaza 10y ago
>If your city isn't like NYC right now it's only ever going to move in that direction. That's a hell of an assumption. I know people who live in NYC, making very good money, and they're all crammed into tiny apartments with multiple roommates because the congestion and rent are so ridiculous. That's fine for people in their early 20s, but do you really think these same people are still going to live in NYC once they get married and have kids? A small percent will buy a place in NYC, and the rest will move out to the suburbs. If anything, I'd predict that small and walkable urban areas, interspersed inside large suburbs, are more likely to be the future growth areas.
- dodders 10y ago
  I know people with kids that live in NYC - it's perfectly affordable a bit further out into the boroughs and they all have the subway. I also know a lot of people that had kids and moved to the burbs - but they all commute via public transport (either train or bus). I guess my point is that anecdotes don't really mean anything?
- chris_7 10y ago
  No one making "very good money" (I assume >= $100k) needs to live with roommates in NYC. You can easily afford a 1br on that, and in a trendy neighborhood too, e.g. Williamsburg. And once you have a partner to move in with, you can easily afford a giant 1br or a 2br if you want that.