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"Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not." -Master Yoda May the Force be with you

"Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not." -Master Yoda May the Force be with you Princess Source: a Reddit comment [1] [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/5kkzmo/comment/dbonl3d?st=IX7UB1IO&sh=1c85e406 https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/5kkzmo/comment/dbon...

Vaskivo 10y ago
That... hit way harder than it should. Thank you.
mentat2737 10y ago
She is one with the Force, the Force is with her. source: the comments in that thread.
- daveguy 10y ago
  > source: the comments in that thread ... and the new Rogue One movie. If you haven't seen it -- it is worth watching.
  - therealdrag0 10y ago
    I thought it sucked. Sure it's pretty and it's StarWars universe, but I would have been happy to not see it.
  - mentat2737 10y ago
    Watched two days ago. Lovely, I really liked it.
azatris 10y ago
Except it's blatantly unrealistic. Death is not 'a part of life', but a nuisance. Not all species 'die' (e.g. jellyfish, hydra, possibly lobsters, flatworms). And 'the Force' is fictional and does not apply to Carrie Fisher. As long as we have our species, it is enevitable we will be achieving immortality. My point being - every death is a tragedy.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >Except it's blatantly unrealistic. Death is not 'a part of life', but a nuisance. The two notions are orthogonal. Nuisances of every kind are regular parts of life.
- cle 10y ago
  Death is change. Anyone who's witnessed the slow mental decline of a loved one knows that death is not black and white. Death is no more tragic than any other change--what was, is no more, and has transformed into something new. It is tragic only insofar as we resist accepting its ineluctability.
  - inopinatus 10y ago
    Sorry, it has not transformed into something new. Life has stopped and any residual potential has been lost. Death is nothing but pain and loss. If we can overcome it someday, it'll cause massive social disruption but massive long-term benefit.
    - secstate 10y ago
      I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Death is most definitely NOT nothing but pain and loss. For those living in chronic pain, it is release. For those of us who manage to live our lives forgetting those who have hurt us as a coping mechanism, death provides an opportunity to grieve properly, when it was not possible in life. Residual potential lives on in the survivors ability to find inspiration in the lives of those long-since dead. Would you argue that Einstein's residual potential has been lost, if his work and his legacy is still inspiring people to explore the limits of human knowledge? Our triumph over death will be met with a similar awe as our successful invention of the hedonovat, a device that suspends a living creature in goo while supplying everything it needs to live forever and supplying sensory inputs of nothing but pleasure and happiness.
      - inopinatus 10y ago
        Einstein's residual potential has been lost, because he is dead. He was still writing papers in 1955, when he died. If he was still alive, I hope he would still be publishing. The idea that "residual potential lives on in others" is irrelevant - there should be no need to die to inspire someone else. Moreover, even if inspired by Einstein, no-one will not produce exactly the same work as Einstein would have, had he lived. So that notion is refuted, and would become ever more definitively so over the accumulated years and contributions of an indefinite lifespan. Solving the problem of death includes removing the overwhelming preference for death in cases where it is the only relief from a terrible quality of life, so your chronic pain example gets swept aside. The is no such thing as a "hedonovat" and your depiction of it sounds frankly ridiculous. Hoping to enable an indefinite human lifespan with a high quality of life is not ridiculous. Death is only loss and pain.
krapp 10y ago
I like Star Wars and all but let's not trivialize the death of a real person with pseudomystical nonsense from a muppet, shall we?

Vaskivo 10y ago

That... hit way harder than it should. Thank you.

mentat2737 10y ago

She is one with the Force, the Force is with her. source: the comments in that thread.

daveguy 10y ago
> source: the comments in that thread ... and the new Rogue One movie. If you haven't seen it -- it is worth watching.
- therealdrag0 10y ago
  I thought it sucked. Sure it's pretty and it's StarWars universe, but I would have been happy to not see it.
- mentat2737 10y ago
  Watched two days ago. Lovely, I really liked it.

azatris 10y ago

Except it's blatantly unrealistic. Death is not 'a part of life', but a nuisance. Not all species 'die' (e.g. jellyfish, hydra, possibly lobsters, flatworms). And 'the Force' is fictional and does not apply to Carrie Fisher. As long as we have our species, it is enevitable we will be achieving immortality. My point being - every death is a tragedy.

coldtea 10y ago
>Except it's blatantly unrealistic. Death is not 'a part of life', but a nuisance. The two notions are orthogonal. Nuisances of every kind are regular parts of life.
cle 10y ago
Death is change. Anyone who's witnessed the slow mental decline of a loved one knows that death is not black and white. Death is no more tragic than any other change--what was, is no more, and has transformed into something new. It is tragic only insofar as we resist accepting its ineluctability.
- inopinatus 10y ago
  Sorry, it has not transformed into something new. Life has stopped and any residual potential has been lost. Death is nothing but pain and loss. If we can overcome it someday, it'll cause massive social disruption but massive long-term benefit.
  - secstate 10y ago
    I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Death is most definitely NOT nothing but pain and loss. For those living in chronic pain, it is release. For those of us who manage to live our lives forgetting those who have hurt us as a coping mechanism, death provides an opportunity to grieve properly, when it was not possible in life. Residual potential lives on in the survivors ability to find inspiration in the lives of those long-since dead. Would you argue that Einstein's residual potential has been lost, if his work and his legacy is still inspiring people to explore the limits of human knowledge? Our triumph over death will be met with a similar awe as our successful invention of the hedonovat, a device that suspends a living creature in goo while supplying everything it needs to live forever and supplying sensory inputs of nothing but pleasure and happiness.
    - inopinatus 10y ago
      Einstein's residual potential has been lost, because he is dead. He was still writing papers in 1955, when he died. If he was still alive, I hope he would still be publishing. The idea that "residual potential lives on in others" is irrelevant - there should be no need to die to inspire someone else. Moreover, even if inspired by Einstein, no-one will not produce exactly the same work as Einstein would have, had he lived. So that notion is refuted, and would become ever more definitively so over the accumulated years and contributions of an indefinite lifespan. Solving the problem of death includes removing the overwhelming preference for death in cases where it is the only relief from a terrible quality of life, so your chronic pain example gets swept aside. The is no such thing as a "hedonovat" and your depiction of it sounds frankly ridiculous. Hoping to enable an indefinite human lifespan with a high quality of life is not ridiculous. Death is only loss and pain.

krapp 10y ago

I like Star Wars and all but let's not trivialize the death of a real person with pseudomystical nonsense from a muppet, shall we?