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> True, but I don't see that fights over precedence are unique to ArXiv either, or even made worse by it, no? I'm not familiar enough with other methods of pre
by divbit 10y ago
> True, but I don't see that fights over precedence are unique to ArXiv either, or even made worse by it, no?
I'm not familiar enough with other methods of preprint publishing besides arXiv / eprint.iacr, but you may be right that it is not unique to arXiv.
My personal preference would to be to have bits of research done through something like git, so that work along the way can be seen, otherwise one may solve a problem and then be 'out-arXived' by someone who spends an all nighter tex-ing your solution (this is a hyperbolic example, but I think the idea of the potential flaw in the system should be clear).
- Eridrus 10y agoBesides disputes involving patents, papers that are withing a short time frame of each other are usually understood to be cases of parallel invention, it's happening quite frequently in deep learning atm since there are still a lot of relatively low hanging ideas, to the extent that people are commenting/joking that they consider the risk of colliding with someone else when deciding what to work on.
- divbit 10y ago> withing a short time frame of each other are usually understood to be cases of parallel invention I see what you are saying, but I don't think it's that cut and dry, otherwise I could just take someone else's work from yesterday (or whatever a short time frame is), and re-solve it (easily -since now the tricky parts have been revealed) and post it today - tada, I parallel invented it!
- beevai142 10y agoTypically the work in a paper, if substantial, is done over a long time, so even if the main destination ends up being same, it's unlikely the route and sidestops are the same. So often you can wriggle a little bit and expand the paper sideways, so that it is still publishable work even if the other work is given priority. It's actually not that rare to have similar papers appear in arXiv one or two weeks later after you submit --- to me, it happened several times within last few years. In these cases, it is possible to see that the approach differs enough (and moreover, often you know the people in question, or you know someone who does).
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