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> What about clean air? I live 70 miles north of Wall Street, and the air seems fine to me. Had we not regulated emissions and created one of the west's most e
by omegaworks 10y ago
> What about clean air? I live 70 miles north of Wall Street, and the air seems fine to me.
Had we not regulated emissions and created one of the west's most extensive public transportation networks to serve the 8.4 million people in NYC you might not be saying that.
I understand your point, that you need a car to live in most of America. But you need to understand how different life in a real, dense city compares. If everyone drove - if we made space for everyone to drive and park - you would radically alter the culture of the city, and you'd significantly reduce its capacity to house so many people and businesses. Density creates opportunities for cultural exchange, cities are efficient human/economy-amplification systems. NYT rightfully hates cars, there is simply no space for cars in NYC and people are so close together they feel the pressure car infrastructure exerts on the city.
My argument is that we'd have more spaces like these if we didn't subsidize the construction of places where you need cars to live. I'm presently teleworking in Northwest Indiana, and thought it would be easy for me to wait for my car to get fixed in the Starbucks kitty-corner from the repair shop. I didn't heed when the shop owner said, "you take your life into your own hands," when I told him my plan. I nearly got hit walking across the street - the only way out of this place - in broad daylight.
We have an obesity epidemic and our communities are dissolving. Just look at what was trending on HN 4 days ago. [1] More suburbs, strip malls and parking lots are certainly not part of the solution.
1. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/upshot/how-social-isolation-is-killing-us.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/upshot/how-social-isolatio...
- graycat 10y agoNYC and rural Indiana won't agree on cars.
- omegaworks 10y agoNWI is hardly rural. It could densify if the incentives were there. We shouldn't keep subsidizing the expansion of suburban infrastructure by keeping gas artificially cheap.
- graycat 10y agoSure, NWI includes Gary, long important for steel. I got married in Indiana, and our dinner that night was in South Bend on our way to Chicago. South Bend didn't look very big, and near South Bend looked quite rural. The wedding was 15 miles south of Warsaw; it wasn't very big, and the surrounding area was farm country. The wedding was in Claypool, and her family was from a farm on the east side of County Farm Road a little south of the railroad tracks E-W about the latitude of Claypool. Her father was a really good guy, had been a Captain in WWII, did well in farming, built the house and the farm buildings, mixed his own animal feed, was on the bank BoD, was active in Lions, was on the school board, eventually ran the local REMC, etc. She was a fantastic student, high school Valedictorian, PBK, "Highest Distinction", Woodrow Wilson, NSF at IU, Ph.D. at Johns Hopkins. I also spent five years in Ohio, at OSU, in Columbus. From all I can see, Ohio, Indiana, ..., are heavily rural and very much want and need cars. There the pollution from cars is of little concern. Sure, Manhattan is different.