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> It's cross platform Are there Windows builds? There was a guy that did but he stopped at 2.0.

by JorgeGT 10y ago

geppetto 10y ago
Oops! You're right there's no official Windows port. I've run it on Mac and Linux only.
- JorgeGT 10y ago
  I've been able to run it on the Linux Subsystem for Windows with an X server, but there was still a few quirks I believe.
wtallis 10y ago
There's been renewed work on a clean Windows port in recent months: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1327 https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1327
- JorgeGT 10y ago
  Interesting! They almost lynched the guy at the beginning but seems that there's progress.
  - exception_e 10y ago
    It is very interesting. I don't want to intrude on their thread, but if others here vouch for this technique I'll politely ask them to look into the following: - https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desk... - http://boot2docker.io/ http://boot2docker.io/ ...has anyone here ever used this approach with nix apps that need to run on Windows "natively"? Writing a powershell script to silently install boot2docker with this special docker image wouldn't be too difficult. The DarkTable folks don't seem interesting in maintaining Win builds so this may be the perfect workaround. NOTE: I realize that `File > Open Image` may be non-trivial, but surely there's a way to mount a host<->guest folder (e.g.: When using the application, the workspace is located in `C:\Users\$whoami\Documents\DarkTable\.jpg`)
    - sz4kerto 10y ago
      Boot2Docker is not for this purpose. Silently installing a VM on a Windows PC is a very bad idea. If the user is not proficient enough to know about and configure the VM, then what happens if - B2D installs a Virtualbox instance, but Hyper-V is on. VBox can't run besides Hyper-V. - How do you configure the resource usage for the VM?Something like Darktable requires a lot of resources - How do you manage shared folders? VBox shared folder performance is really bad compared to native - Do you install an X server as well? Anyway -- it's just a bad idea.
    - exception_e 10y ago
      Thanks sz4kerto. I'm glad I got some thoughts here before posting that in their PR (I obviously won't post it now because of the points you brought up). I guess a user that would be comfortable with b2d or vbox would just have those running anyways! Note: for you question about X, please check out https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desk...
  - vvanders 10y ago
    Wow you weren't kidding. > It may be better to go help out some other free software project that already had the misfortune of working on that platform... I understand their points about maintenance, but telling someone to go work on something else rather than keeping an experimental branch around, sheesh. As someone who appreciates open source and works primarily on Windows I really wish they had a better attitude. Take a look at Rust or Elixir, fantastic communities and the software is better for it. I'm sure that Darktable has some interesting things but based on what I saw in that thread I think I'll be sticking to Lightroom.
    - digler999 10y ago
      I've only read that quote, but to me that doesn't seem like a rude thing to say. I interpret it as "This windows branch is awful, it might be better for you to abandon that effort and work on something with more potential". I hear it as criticizing the code, not the person. Edit: I read a little more, looks like the devs were upset because windows isn't a free platform, and they didn't want darktable's reputation marred by a buggy port. > This will be very bad for darktable reputation
      - vvanders 10y ago
        It was in the context of building trust, basically "go away and work on another project so we know who you are before you can touch our holy code". That guy came in with a great attitude and approach, he pretty much got told to pack it.
        digler999 10y ago
        I dont believe in being rude to people, but sometimes you have to make things clear. In their comment chain they asked the dev to rename the application so it didn't give the reputation a bad name. I can understand that, especially since Darktable apparently is a really good app. Open source means you can take the code and build/modify/play with it, it doesn't mean you can take the name and reputation of a product and apply it in a new direction (using the same name).
snarfy 10y ago
It works in Windows 10 using the Linux for Windows feature, and then using a suitable windows X server. http://i.imgur.com/MxadCpg.png http://i.imgur.com/MxadCpg.png

> It's cross platform Are there Windows builds? There was a guy that did but he stopped at 2.0.

by JorgeGT 10y ago

> It's cross platform Are there Windows builds? There was a guy that did but he stopped at 2.0.

geppetto 10y ago

Oops! You're right there's no official Windows port. I've run it on Mac and Linux only.

JorgeGT 10y ago
I've been able to run it on the Linux Subsystem for Windows with an X server, but there was still a few quirks I believe.

wtallis 10y ago

There's been renewed work on a clean Windows port in recent months: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1327 https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/1327

JorgeGT 10y ago
Interesting! They almost lynched the guy at the beginning but seems that there's progress.
- exception_e 10y ago
  It is very interesting. I don't want to intrude on their thread, but if others here vouch for this technique I'll politely ask them to look into the following: - https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desk... - http://boot2docker.io/ http://boot2docker.io/ ...has anyone here ever used this approach with nix apps that need to run on Windows "natively"? Writing a powershell script to silently install boot2docker with this special docker image wouldn't be too difficult. The DarkTable folks don't seem interesting in maintaining Win builds so this may be the perfect workaround. NOTE: I realize that `File > Open Image` may be non-trivial, but surely there's a way to mount a host<->guest folder (e.g.: When using the application, the workspace is located in `C:\Users\$whoami\Documents\DarkTable\.jpg`)
  - sz4kerto 10y ago
    Boot2Docker is not for this purpose. Silently installing a VM on a Windows PC is a very bad idea. If the user is not proficient enough to know about and configure the VM, then what happens if - B2D installs a Virtualbox instance, but Hyper-V is on. VBox can't run besides Hyper-V. - How do you configure the resource usage for the VM?Something like Darktable requires a lot of resources - How do you manage shared folders? VBox shared folder performance is really bad compared to native - Do you install an X server as well? Anyway -- it's just a bad idea.
  - exception_e 10y ago
    Thanks sz4kerto. I'm glad I got some thoughts here before posting that in their PR (I obviously won't post it now because of the points you brought up). I guess a user that would be comfortable with b2d or vbox would just have those running anyways! Note: for you question about X, please check out https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/ https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desk...
- vvanders 10y ago
  Wow you weren't kidding. > It may be better to go help out some other free software project that already had the misfortune of working on that platform... I understand their points about maintenance, but telling someone to go work on something else rather than keeping an experimental branch around, sheesh. As someone who appreciates open source and works primarily on Windows I really wish they had a better attitude. Take a look at Rust or Elixir, fantastic communities and the software is better for it. I'm sure that Darktable has some interesting things but based on what I saw in that thread I think I'll be sticking to Lightroom.
  - digler999 10y ago
    I've only read that quote, but to me that doesn't seem like a rude thing to say. I interpret it as "This windows branch is awful, it might be better for you to abandon that effort and work on something with more potential". I hear it as criticizing the code, not the person. Edit: I read a little more, looks like the devs were upset because windows isn't a free platform, and they didn't want darktable's reputation marred by a buggy port. > This will be very bad for darktable reputation
    - vvanders 10y ago
      It was in the context of building trust, basically "go away and work on another project so we know who you are before you can touch our holy code". That guy came in with a great attitude and approach, he pretty much got told to pack it.
      - digler999 10y ago
        I dont believe in being rude to people, but sometimes you have to make things clear. In their comment chain they asked the dev to rename the application so it didn't give the reputation a bad name. I can understand that, especially since Darktable apparently is a really good app. Open source means you can take the code and build/modify/play with it, it doesn't mean you can take the name and reputation of a product and apply it in a new direction (using the same name).

snarfy 10y ago

It works in Windows 10 using the Linux for Windows feature, and then using a suitable windows X server. http://i.imgur.com/MxadCpg.png http://i.imgur.com/MxadCpg.png