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Being a consumer magazine, a large part of the readership are probably gamers. It makes perfect sense to include a test of what users should expect if they buy

by hansihe 10y ago

Being a consumer magazine, a large part of the readership are probably gamers. It makes perfect sense to include a test of what users should expect if they buy the hardware for playing games. Like it or not, game performance is a useful real-life metric for many consumers.

rektide 10y ago
You're a moron. That's not in any way what I was trying to refute. Benchmarks are great! These are however a crime against all respectable benchmarks ever. By aggregating all the results together, we have no idea how to tell whether it's just some games that the processor doesn't do well with, & we have no idea how to find out which types of games that may be. Your willful disregard for all the points I'm making are an insult to the inquiry that any decent benchmarkers would do- we have to know what games do ok and what games fail to begin to make a pattern. If only old, ancient single core games suffer, & suffer badly, so be it. If all games are a little bit under par, ok. But we need something other than the terrible aggregated synthetic mess of a "benchmark" that is presented here which gives us no idea where on the spectrum this processor lies. This benchmark is a sham and bullshit & could not work harder to prevent any kind of meaningful conclusion from being drawn.
- dang 10y ago
  > You're a moron. Personal attacks are not allowed on HN and will get your account banned, so please don't do this again. Also, the site guidelines ask you to drop this sort of name calling from your comments here: > total bullshit, a complete rip off & insultingly anti-useful. This is serious propaganda, total malarkey (Though I admit that is an impressive run.) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

by hansihe 10y ago

rektide 10y ago

You're a moron. That's not in any way what I was trying to refute. Benchmarks are great! These are however a crime against all respectable benchmarks ever. By aggregating all the results together, we have no idea how to tell whether it's just some games that the processor doesn't do well with, & we have no idea how to find out which types of games that may be. Your willful disregard for all the points I'm making are an insult to the inquiry that any decent benchmarkers would do- we have to know what games do ok and what games fail to begin to make a pattern. If only old, ancient single core games suffer, & suffer badly, so be it. If all games are a little bit under par, ok. But we need something other than the terrible aggregated synthetic mess of a "benchmark" that is presented here which gives us no idea where on the spectrum this processor lies. This benchmark is a sham and bullshit & could not work harder to prevent any kind of meaningful conclusion from being drawn.

dang 10y ago
> You're a moron. Personal attacks are not allowed on HN and will get your account banned, so please don't do this again. Also, the site guidelines ask you to drop this sort of name calling from your comments here: > total bullshit, a complete rip off & insultingly anti-useful. This is serious propaganda, total malarkey (Though I admit that is an impressive run.) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html