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Bar in NY raises drinking age to 25 because young people are 'too annoying'

22 points by Huhty 10y ago

saghm 10y ago
I can understand the desire to curb the rowdy behavior, but I'm not sure I agree with the methodology of banning everyone in a certain demographic. If the common characteristic of the rowdy people were race instead of age, would it be okay to ban everyone of that race from drinking after a certain time?
- pvdebbe 10y ago
  Private entrepreneurs should be able to do whatever they want. I don't go to bars but I might visit one with a 30+ limit.
  - adpoe 10y ago
    There are bars like this in my city, in some particularly rowdy college-bar areas. They've been open for 20+ years, most of them. So it must work out from a business POV. But never visted one to report. However, guess it's only news because it's New York. =)
  - TheGreatPotatoe 10y ago
    These existed in Hoboken at one point. Haven't been there in years so not sure if this still happens.
  - saghm 10y ago
    I guess I'd have to disagree here. I think that there definitely should be some restrictions on who you can ban from patronizing your business (such as forbidding businesses from banning racial minorities or homosexuals); I'm just not sure whether I think something like limiting based on age (outside of enforcing the legal drinking age). I'll try another thought experiment which is a bit more similar to the real-life situation: do you think that private entrepreneurs should be able to ban people over a certain age, e.g. everyone above 50?
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- CompanionCuube 10y ago
  Bars tend to already ban everyone in a certain demographic: Under 21.
  - saghm 10y ago
    Yes, but there's a a clear legal basis for that. I'm not sure there's a legal basis for banning arbitrary demographics from patronizing a business.
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squozzer 10y ago
Maybe a name change - as much as I like the name Phil's Crummy Corner - to something snobbier might help. And take it from me -- 50somethings have as much trouble holding their liquor as 20somethings.

22 points by Huhty 10y ago

saghm 10y ago

I can understand the desire to curb the rowdy behavior, but I'm not sure I agree with the methodology of banning everyone in a certain demographic. If the common characteristic of the rowdy people were race instead of age, would it be okay to ban everyone of that race from drinking after a certain time?

pvdebbe 10y ago
Private entrepreneurs should be able to do whatever they want. I don't go to bars but I might visit one with a 30+ limit.
- adpoe 10y ago
  There are bars like this in my city, in some particularly rowdy college-bar areas. They've been open for 20+ years, most of them. So it must work out from a business POV. But never visted one to report. However, guess it's only news because it's New York. =)
- TheGreatPotatoe 10y ago
  These existed in Hoboken at one point. Haven't been there in years so not sure if this still happens.
- saghm 10y ago
  I guess I'd have to disagree here. I think that there definitely should be some restrictions on who you can ban from patronizing your business (such as forbidding businesses from banning racial minorities or homosexuals); I'm just not sure whether I think something like limiting based on age (outside of enforcing the legal drinking age). I'll try another thought experiment which is a bit more similar to the real-life situation: do you think that private entrepreneurs should be able to ban people over a certain age, e.g. everyone above 50?
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CompanionCuube 10y ago
Bars tend to already ban everyone in a certain demographic: Under 21.
- saghm 10y ago
  Yes, but there's a a clear legal basis for that. I'm not sure there's a legal basis for banning arbitrary demographics from patronizing a business.

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squozzer 10y ago

Maybe a name change - as much as I like the name Phil's Crummy Corner - to something snobbier might help. And take it from me -- 50somethings have as much trouble holding their liquor as 20somethings.