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"Eventually I switched to Gnome 3 simply because it made configuring wi-fi and power options easier." I don't understand this comment ... possibly because I ha

by rsync 10y ago

"Eventually I switched to Gnome 3 simply because it made configuring wi-fi and power options easier." I don't understand this comment ... possibly because I have not used modern X (gnome, KDE, whatever) very much at all ... How is configuring wifi and power a window manager issue ? Isn't there an application for wifi config that everyone on Linux uses, regardless of WM ? I use FreeBSD and OSX and my FreeBSD wifi config is all done via the command line, but I always assumed there was a nice "wifi config" app for Linux ... you are saying that is part of the window manager and is different for all of them ?

nickpsecurity 10y ago
It is on my box. I'm running Ubuntu on this one. Like with Windows, there's an icon for networking. It automatically connects if it's Ethernet. If wireless, clicking it displays a list of access points to use. Clicking on a protected one asks for a password. It saves the password then just connects to it anytime it's near. Pretty simple but probably distro-specific app.
- davidbanham 10y ago
  You're conflating your desktop environment with your window manager. For example, I run xmonad on top of xfce and use the standard xfce tray, wifi config, etc. Xmonad just replaces the xfce window manager.
  - aban 10y ago
    What the parent said. To be even more specific, network management is really distro- and DE-agnostic. For instance, Arch wiki describes a multitude of ways for wired [0] and wireless [1] network configuration, that would technically work in other distros as well. Most distros and DEs ship with Gnome's NetworkManager [2] but with different front-ends: distros with GTK-based DEs like Gnome or Unity usually ship network-manager-applet, and distros with Qt-based DEs like KDE usually ship plasma-nm or networkmanager-qt. Power management [3] is a bit different. There are distro-specific recommendations and also 3rd party apps, but DEs usually have their own power manager. Now, when you choose to use a DE, the choice of which network or power management solution you use is already made for you, but when you don't use a DE then you will be choosing them yourself. [0]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_config... [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
    - nickpsecurity 10y ago
      Appreciate the corrections from both of you.
petepete 10y ago
AwesomeWM has no in built wi-fi config (rightfully, as it's just a window manager). You need to use (and research, learn etc) another tool. Gnome has it built in (as it's a DE, not just a WM). Select network from applet, type in password, done. Same for sound, power options, displays, wallpaper and things I want to spend as little time as possible thinking about.

by rsync 10y ago

nickpsecurity 10y ago

It is on my box. I'm running Ubuntu on this one. Like with Windows, there's an icon for networking. It automatically connects if it's Ethernet. If wireless, clicking it displays a list of access points to use. Clicking on a protected one asks for a password. It saves the password then just connects to it anytime it's near. Pretty simple but probably distro-specific app.

davidbanham 10y ago
You're conflating your desktop environment with your window manager. For example, I run xmonad on top of xfce and use the standard xfce tray, wifi config, etc. Xmonad just replaces the xfce window manager.
- aban 10y ago
  What the parent said. To be even more specific, network management is really distro- and DE-agnostic. For instance, Arch wiki describes a multitude of ways for wired [0] and wireless [1] network configuration, that would technically work in other distros as well. Most distros and DEs ship with Gnome's NetworkManager [2] but with different front-ends: distros with GTK-based DEs like Gnome or Unity usually ship network-manager-applet, and distros with Qt-based DEs like KDE usually ship plasma-nm or networkmanager-qt. Power management [3] is a bit different. There are distro-specific recommendations and also 3rd party apps, but DEs usually have their own power manager. Now, when you choose to use a DE, the choice of which network or power management solution you use is already made for you, but when you don't use a DE then you will be choosing them yourself. [0]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration [1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_config... [2]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager [3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
  - nickpsecurity 10y ago
    Appreciate the corrections from both of you.

petepete 10y ago

AwesomeWM has no in built wi-fi config (rightfully, as it's just a window manager). You need to use (and research, learn etc) another tool. Gnome has it built in (as it's a DE, not just a WM). Select network from applet, type in password, done. Same for sound, power options, displays, wallpaper and things I want to spend as little time as possible thinking about.