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This isn't a fair comparison. Apple has a monopoly in the store of iOS devices. In Android you can authorize different stores, in Apple walled garden, you can't

by neves 10y ago

This isn't a fair comparison. Apple has a monopoly in the store of iOS devices. In Android you can authorize different stores, in Apple walled garden, you can't. It is hard of find an equivalent metaphor in the real world. Maybe if you decided to live in the USA, them the government forbids you to buy something you like because they are in a commercial dispute with another country. Would you move just because of this? It won't take long to get to the moment when Apple have more influence in your life than the government of the country you live. And you won't be able to vote them out.

hutattedonmyarm 10y ago
> Apple hasn’t pulled the Withings apps from the App Store yet They took the hardware off their store, not the App from the App Store. So this has nothing to do with being able (or not) to get your apps from different stores
xoa 10y ago
>This isn't a fair comparison. Apple has a monopoly in the store of iOS devices. In Android you can authorize different stores, in Apple walled garden, you can't. I think you've gotten confused here (or didn't read the article): this is not software we're talking about, this is hardware. The physical hardware products have been pulled from the Apple Store, both online and retail, not the supporting software apps in the App Store. And Apple has no monopoly whatsoever on retail or online equivalents, Withings are still readily available at a variety of outlets and of course on all the online ones, Amazon etc. So as long as it stays like that there is no issue at all. Particularly for Apple retail stock space is extremely valuable and precious and it's perfectly reasonable (and in fact necessary) for them to pick and choose what to stock for a variety of reasons. On the other hand if at some point they extended that to the App Store as well or took any other actions whatsoever to use their artificial iOS platform technical control as a club (such as trying to make Withings devices cease to function with iOS devices) then yes, that would be really bad. Not sure whether it'd be illegal or not but it should be (although I think it should be legally required to hardware owners to be offered a root key on their devices too, but that's another discussion). At least for now though hardware stocking decisions alone are not a cause for concern.

by neves 10y ago

hutattedonmyarm 10y ago

> Apple hasn’t pulled the Withings apps from the App Store yet They took the hardware off their store, not the App from the App Store. So this has nothing to do with being able (or not) to get your apps from different stores

xoa 10y ago

>This isn't a fair comparison. Apple has a monopoly in the store of iOS devices. In Android you can authorize different stores, in Apple walled garden, you can't. I think you've gotten confused here (or didn't read the article): this is not software we're talking about, this is hardware. The physical hardware products have been pulled from the Apple Store, both online and retail, not the supporting software apps in the App Store. And Apple has no monopoly whatsoever on retail or online equivalents, Withings are still readily available at a variety of outlets and of course on all the online ones, Amazon etc. So as long as it stays like that there is no issue at all. Particularly for Apple retail stock space is extremely valuable and precious and it's perfectly reasonable (and in fact necessary) for them to pick and choose what to stock for a variety of reasons. On the other hand if at some point they extended that to the App Store as well or took any other actions whatsoever to use their artificial iOS platform technical control as a club (such as trying to make Withings devices cease to function with iOS devices) then yes, that would be really bad. Not sure whether it'd be illegal or not but it should be (although I think it should be legally required to hardware owners to be offered a root key on their devices too, but that's another discussion). At least for now though hardware stocking decisions alone are not a cause for concern.