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Electric charge stations are cheaper to build and have no logistic problems — just connect equipment to the high-power grid.

by lisivka 10y ago

dogma1138 10y ago
Electric charge stations are not by any means cheaper to build, a gas station can be as low tech as a guy with a bucket. Gas pumps cost about 2000-3000$ or 1000 or less if you order them from china... https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Self-service-fuel-dispenser-small-gas_60461219275.html https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Self-service-fuel-dis... The other thing you need is a tank and that's it. Electrical charge stations do require logistics you need to have a beefy electrical supply and meet regulations. But in both cases the cost of the pump/charging station isn't the big factor it's the cost of the land for parking and the convenience store and the rest of the pitstop facilities.
- Kubuxu 10y ago
  You think storing tons of highly flammable and potentially explosive liquid doesn't require meeting regulations and is easy? Gas pump itself might be cheap but you have to connect it to storage tank.
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    the tank is buried underground and that's it, again in both cases the charging station/fuel dispenser isn't the expensive part the land is. That said there is no way that a modern high power charging station is cheaper or anywhere near the price of an off the shelf fuel dispenser those things are very cheap and there is also a huge used market for them which is not currently the case for charging stations. If anything the problem with charging stations now is the lack of standardization every car has a different charger and charge requirements heck even Tesla has 2-3 chargers atm you can't charge the older roaster models on the Model S charge stations without a converter (and i think that one is only for the Leaf type charging station also).
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Electric charge stations are cheaper to build and have no logistic problems — just connect equipment to the high-power grid.

by lisivka 10y ago

Electric charge stations are cheaper to build and have no logistic problems — just connect equipment to the high-power grid.

dogma1138 10y ago

Electric charge stations are not by any means cheaper to build, a gas station can be as low tech as a guy with a bucket. Gas pumps cost about 2000-3000$ or 1000 or less if you order them from china... https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Self-service-fuel-dispenser-small-gas_60461219275.html https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Self-service-fuel-dis... The other thing you need is a tank and that's it. Electrical charge stations do require logistics you need to have a beefy electrical supply and meet regulations. But in both cases the cost of the pump/charging station isn't the big factor it's the cost of the land for parking and the convenience store and the rest of the pitstop facilities.

Kubuxu 10y ago
You think storing tons of highly flammable and potentially explosive liquid doesn't require meeting regulations and is easy? Gas pump itself might be cheap but you have to connect it to storage tank.
- dogma1138 10y ago
  the tank is buried underground and that's it, again in both cases the charging station/fuel dispenser isn't the expensive part the land is. That said there is no way that a modern high power charging station is cheaper or anywhere near the price of an off the shelf fuel dispenser those things are very cheap and there is also a huge used market for them which is not currently the case for charging stations. If anything the problem with charging stations now is the lack of standardization every car has a different charger and charge requirements heck even Tesla has 2-3 chargers atm you can't charge the older roaster models on the Model S charge stations without a converter (and i think that one is only for the Leaf type charging station also).

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